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depends on whether your talking about physical addiction or psychological?

physical addiction – symptoms can include

waking up sweating ++ , shaking /tremours , acute anxiety / aggitation, nauseous / vomiting (esp blood – esophagageal varices *frighetening* )

Serious liver diseases such as cirrhosis can cause a number of complications, including esophageal varices — abnormally enlarged veins in the lower part of your esophagus, the tube that connects your throat and stomach.

Esophageal varices develop when normal blood flow to your liver is blocked. The blood then backs up into smaller, more fragile blood vessels in your esophagus, and often in your stomach or rectum as well, causing the vessels to swell. Sometimes, esophageal varices can rupture, causing a life-threatening condition.

, (know people who have literally bleed to death – without trying to scare you )
raised / high BP, having blackouts / falling over when drunk, drinking til passing out, fitting (same as epeleptic seizures)

from withdrawal and ‘needing’ an alcoholic drink to stop the shakes / tremours etc

often needing an ‘alternative’ (daizepam detox to stop) or reducing gradually – if physicallly addicted it is VERY dangerous to just stop!!!!

psychological – needing an alcoholic drink to feel ‘normal’ without / necessarily the physical symptoms….

craving alcohol

and ‘needing it to function’

or if YOU feel your alcohol use is affecting your ‘daily activities’ etc

there are self help like AA / NA, or DAT teams – however if you do have a ‘mental health’ diagnosis – which i guess from your other posts you do – they wont ‘treat’ the mh diagnosis unless you address your drinking ‘ if they feel it is impacting’ on your mood, as obviously alcohol is a depressant and anti depressants / anti psychotics wont work if you are drinking also ……..
and it is difficult to assess someones mood when using any kind of substance – which can feel very irritating and diempowering

but with regards to ‘addiction’ – only you can decide when you have had enough or when you feel you need to cut down / stop – no ammount of nagging or emotonal blackmail will do it

best wishes to you and we are here to listen if you need :group_hug

it really is dependant on the person and your psysiology – and this isnt a cop out answer,

I know people who have been drinking 1 bottle + for years and not particularily physically depndant, some people it only takes months – if you have previously been addicted (physically it takes less time to become depandant – some times weeks /months ) depends on your body’s capasity , how much you are drinking / what you are drinking etc etc

if you feel the need to drink from waking you are defo physiaclly dependant, but some people may experience withdrawals but in the evening (ie 6 – 7pm if they dont drink – start to be aggitated etc – but difficult to decide whether this is ppsychological or physical – either way its a problem….)
I guess the only way you will know is if you dont drink and see if you get physical withdrawals… but this can be risky

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ah i like it 😉 if you hadnt noticed …..

well obvioulsy alcohol and smoking are the biggest killers in addiciton

– there is such a predudice against ‘drug users; – which is unfair in my opinion as when it comes to addiction the only difference is one is illegal the other is not –
they are both ‘mind altering substances’ and serve their purpose in the short term….

but it is intersting the bad ‘press’ drugs have compaired to the cost alcohol addiction has on the NHS as a whole…..

just thought it might be interesting readin……

yeah i wasnt saying alcohol is safer or awt just saying be wary of statistics

i still firmly believe the government is silly in illegalising these substances

full prisons and what not… they dont need to be!

I havent got time to read the documents got school 2moz i shud get some sleep but just reading the headlines tells a bit of a tale :p

ok then, good night mother! much love! :love: