Alleviating a Smack Detox?

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December 21, 2006 at 12:56 am

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stevo909

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I’m 56 hrs into a rattle and really starting 2 struggle. dont want 2 take any opiates but if anyone has any tried and tested home remedies then id be most grateful
December 21, 2006 at 11:05 am

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Raj

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Hey steve

:group_hug:group_hug:group_hug:group_hug:group_hug:group_hug

Hang in there mate

What if anything have you tried? Off the shelf remedies which may help include valerian tea [health food shop], chamomile tea and a good multivitamin and mineral combination. You could also ask a herbalist or homoepath if you can find/afford one for their advice?

Dont know if you have come across this forum:

http://www.heroin-detox.com/default.asp

you may find something useful there too.

other useful stuff may be:

http://www.partyvibe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=20330

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e_babes wrote:

Just try using the basic stuff if you need it, Ibuprofen for the sore legs, something like diocalm for the shits an perhaps Nytol for a little sleep. All over the counter etc.
December 21, 2006 at 12:38 pm

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stevo909

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iim using buscopan for the squits and tried ibuprofen last night for the legs actually got about 9 mins sleep at4am this morning woohoo! tried ntytol 2 but 2 no avail. its the lack of sleep thats winding me up the most tho.

thanx 4 the link and the support 2 guys.
stevo
December 21, 2006 at 1:39 pm

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SD

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Just sent you a PM steve.

Hang in there mate, I know its shit…

I use nytol and valerian, try to stay away from the benzo’s..
December 28, 2006 at 1:07 pm

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e_babes

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Buscopan for the shits is good or if you can get it norperimide (i think its called) and that stops the cramps, but if you can stay away from benzos like gary mentioned then all well and good.

Try hot drinks, stay away from tea and coffee but say use hot water, sugar and lemon.

Even a hot water bottle on the stomach is ok and massage the stomach so that the digestive system can move the food along better (aids peristalsis)

Hot baths regularly and massage the back of lkegs etc to aid with cramps and kicks.

Try eating small and regular amounts when ready, I used dried toast…not the nicest I apreciate. Shower your ass regulary to stop the runs from making your ass bleed when wiping (sorry for those who have not experienced this but all true and helps).

Ibuprofen helps on week 2, same as cannibis. Nytol contains an antihistamine so will make you drowsey. The next class of drugs if this doesnt work you could try benelyn etc, after that im afraid it is benzos which you can do without another habit.

Let us all know how your getting on Stevo m8.

Good luck and I hope the christmas spirit has helped you along your way to a drug free year for 2007.

Elliot
January 9, 2007 at 1:02 pm

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nestie

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hi stevo
just a few words ov encouragement,the usual over the counter pain killers,and try to do a little bit ov physical work just 2 try and tryer your self out 4 a half decient sleep,all that built up energy can batter your head,good luck mate…
nestie
January 10, 2007 at 9:21 pm

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classbhero

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dude if your really struggling you should do a bit of research into Ibogaine treatment…. it has some really good report for just getting rid of the ‘clucking’ feeling for up to six months… have a look into it …. although i think you have to go abroad for treatment…

MUCH GOOD WILL
YOU WILL BE FINE
KEEP IT UP.
PEACE
Jack
January 11, 2007 at 12:31 am

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e_babes

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Ibogaine has some serious effects to it, if you like tripping your nuts of for hours on end that is…

I wouldnt wish that stuff on my worst enemy – actually yes I would…

You can purchase Ibogaine on the internet. Not sure of the status but there are some successful reports on the effects because of the trippy nature whilst taking ibogaine.

If anyone takes this route any detox should be monitored by someone, even if they check on you once a day just to make sure there are no issues.

Strangely enough, I know more people who have died from giving up smack than carrying on using it. They all seem to get pneumonia or some auto immune problem.
January 11, 2007 at 2:26 pm

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SD

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I looked into Ibogaine,

TBH, its a pretty full on thing to do. I mean really last resrt stuff..

There is a practicioner in London, can’t remember his name, I think it costs around £500 and you stay at his house for 5 days.

It makes sense to me that as opates are a natrually occuring alkaloid there should be another plant/root etc that can cure the symptoms of withdrawl..

I suppose considering the price of a rehab like detox 5 (£2,500) for a 5 day detox its cheaper, but there are a lot more risks, mentally.

I saw a video with a guy coming off 60mls of methadone with it, he did it and said he didnt feel any wd’s and left after, who knows what happens after that.

Unfortunately the nature of addiction is both emotional and physical. Beating physical cravings and withdrawls are only part of the battle. The real issue is having to deal with ‘life’ without re-treating to your opiate haze.
Unfortunately IMHO once someone has experienced heroin, it is super difficult to not want it again at a time they are struggling. It takes all the pain away AND makes you feel lovely.
January 31, 2007 at 6:21 pm

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nuggetking

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dxm is proven to help people relieve heroin withdrawls. but be careful as it is damaging to your brain to use dxm across consecutive days
January 31, 2007 at 10:09 pm

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muria

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Kava Kava would be ideal for you but they banned it in the UK. It has the same effects as valium without the downsides (its not addictive). I actually used it to come off valium (found coming off valium worse than coming off heroin)

I know people who still manage to get hold of it and there’s a Kava Kava website to give you more information.

Best of luck lovely
September 2, 2012 at 2:17 pm

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chuff

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A full body acupuncture session is equivalent to 30mls methadone and will sort you right out, will cost you about £60 but you have saved that much already, other things such as a warm bath, keeping occupied, sex (or a slow wank) eat some healthy food.

the more you focus on the cluck the worse it will seem its also easier if you know you can’t get gear, which is why some people find it easier in prison or go abroad (to a greek island etc) you habit will be fucking with you trying to make you pick up, it will whisper all sorts of shit and magnify the aches etc

go and talk to someone about this, get support, ask for help, look up old non-using friends and ask them to feed you and keep you busy… etc.
September 2, 2012 at 8:33 pm

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p0ly

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Tramadol ween off.
September 2, 2012 at 9:35 pm

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@chuff 493684 wrote:

the more you focus on the cluck the worse it will seem its also easier if you know you can’t get gear

I tell both of these things to a lot of people. The way our minds work is we want what’s in the front of our mind then and there, subconsciously we want stuff but it’s not so immediate. Distraction is THE best method of getting off a substance, especially by distracting your self with exercise. I quit all drugs many years ago, I take some now days, but when I did I deleted every dealer I knew off my phone and it worked. If people are that desperate they’ll find a way, but you have to take measures to safe guard you chance of getting off a substance you’re addicted to and by doing as much as you can to cut your self of from the source the better.

EVEN if it means loosing friends over it. YOUR HEALTH IS THE most important thing in your life. If someone is dragging you down when you’re trying to get off something, do not talk to them. Totally block them out of your life. If they were a real friend they would be helping you out anyway. And even if they were but were in a bad situation them selves, they should, if a true friend, understand why you need to not be around that stuff.
September 2, 2012 at 11:04 pm

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p0ly

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When i had k cramps playing worms with my ex gf took the pain away as i had my mind focused on it!! this was like cry your eyes out pain as well.
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