anybody heard of people comedowns like this to pills/mdma?

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February 27, 2007 at 2:29 am

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process

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basically my g/f used to cain pills 10/20 a weekend for a good few years. Now when ever she takes them she’s sick. Not when she’s on them just as soon as she starts coming down. She had a break for about a year then had one session on them and was okay. We went to breakspoll on thursday though, she had a few and was sick as soon as we got home, and i mean really violently sick retching and chocking on yellow bile for a good few hours, not pleasant! She’s said fuck that now never again, fair enough I would to if I had to go through that, but has anybody ever had the same experience and knows what causes it or what it is? she’s fine normally apart from a bit of I.B.S… Any info would be helpfull

cheers:yakk:

P.S everytime i wake up my nose fucking hurts, the pain doesn’t make me cry, but brings tears to my eyes like if you get a knock on the nose. Then goes away again after about a minute. Now i admit I cain it a bit, but I don’t think I do anymore than your average.. Any ideas on that one? apart from stop shoving shit up your nose!
February 27, 2007 at 2:50 am

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you absolutely certain these are Es? and not piperazines? and that they are clean ones?

is she taking anything else with them? [alcohol, anything else at all?]

throwing up bile like that possibly is a sign that her liver is struggling to process whatever she has taken – if this is the case she needs to be gentler with it [whatever the breakdown by products are are causing problems to her body ]

what you are describing is not an allergy btw but a bad comedown [an allergy is an almost immediate reaction to ingestion eg anaphalactic shock from eating peanuts]

more info please on the above if you want more useful help 😉

wrt to your nose – take a break from whatever is damaging the mucous membranes :groucho: and give them a chance to get better 😉
February 28, 2007 at 3:59 pm

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alright raj,
nah the pills r fine cause other people are fine off them, and they r proper pills, she does drink when on them, thats what we thought it was initially as she’s quite small, but she got bladdered without pills the other night and wasn’t sick. When it happens it seems to happen after about 6hrs, when coming down. I reckon it must be when they reach a certain point in her stomach, intestine? or maybe it takes 6hrs for the reaction to build up to such a point that she’s sick?? its really weird though because it just comes out of no-where. One minute feeling fine then bang, sick and retching on and off for hrs! when she’s retching she cant keep anything down, food or water… It seems time and rest is the only thing that can stop it? she’s off them for ever now though.

any other ideas?

cheers mate
matt.

ps it is just usually alc and e’s that she does, no other ingredients so who knows?
pps i dont wanna take a break!
ppps she’s also tried doing e’s and not drinking, same thing still happens…
March 1, 2007 at 1:16 pm

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Raj

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Sounds like her problem is with the accumulation of breakdown products from the pills [pills are absorbed pretty fast and I would be surprised to find there was much left in her intestines after 6 hours]

I could only advise her to take a long break and also to go to see a Dr to get her liver functionality checked as it may not be working properly [this could be the result of regular heavy drinking [basically more then the recommended number of units a day or week over a couple of months]]

As a point of note mixing alcohol and E’s makes for a liver which is working very much harder than with either of those two chemicals alone. Personally I wouldnt do it.

The liver is the only organ you have which can recover from a fair amount of abuse. It likes lots of fresh air and exercise to help it along in this process so going for nice long walks in the countryside is good as is giving it a break from any abuse it has been receiving for a few weeks. Fresh air and exercise is nice in pleasant company anyway :wink:.

[Please try and get her to go and get checked out by her GP and have some blood tests done – prevention is far better than the cure and were there to be something wrong she would be catching it early making treatment easier.]
March 4, 2007 at 1:34 pm

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Now whenever she takes them she’s sick.

could it be her body is trying to tell her something perhaps ??? :crazy_dizafter doin loads of pills myself way back i did exactly the same mate

tbh i just thought it was my body trying to reject the poison i had just fed it . i got to the point of putting a pill or bomb of whizz near my mouth would make me wretch i decided to knock it on the head for a while .now when i have anything theres no wretching or nothing

maybe its time to take a well earned break from pills ??
party on raaa
March 4, 2007 at 5:30 pm

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my mate mike suffered the same thing with pills he got around it by putting a crushed pill into a drink such as coke (one pill per can of such drink) and drinking it that way and not drinking booze in the ”session”

tomm 🙂
March 4, 2007 at 5:32 pm

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o and eat a carb based meal an hour before taking the pillareenos
March 6, 2007 at 2:29 am

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process

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:pee:

Raj wrote:

Sounds like her problem is with the accumulation of breakdown products from the pills [pills are absorbed pretty fast and I would be surprised to find there was much left in her intestines after 6 hours]

I could only advise her to take a long break and also to go to see a Dr to get her liver functionality checked as it may not be working properly [this could be the result of regular heavy drinking [basically more then the recommended number of units a day or week over a couple of months]]

As a point of note mixing alcohol and E’s makes for a liver which is working very much harder than with either of those two chemicals alone. Personally I wouldnt do it.

The liver is the only organ you have which can recover from a fair amount of abuse. It likes lots of fresh air and exercise to help it along in this process so going for nice long walks in the countryside is good as is giving it a break from any abuse it has been receiving for a few weeks. Fresh air and exercise is nice in pleasant company anyway :wink:.

[Please try and get her to go and get checked out by her GP and have some blood tests done – prevention is far better than the cure and were there to be something wrong she would be catching it early making treatment easier.]

cheers raj, considering the rda of alc for women is about a mouth full of shandy that could be it, got no chance of getting her to see the doc tho! ive tried loads of times, only time i succeded was when i told her i had clymidia! :pee: :shy: . That was a conversation i dont want to repeat! She’s knocked them on the head now so hopefully that’ll mean that she’ll be okay.. heard that milk thistle is good too
March 6, 2007 at 10:42 am

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Raj

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milk thistle tincture is good for supporting a struggling liver but not drinking would be better along with avoiding drugs for a month or two

A month or two now might mean a 40 year old stranger might still have a normal life [thats her when she is 40 by the way :wink:] grumpy livers can make life very unpleasant :crazy_diz
March 6, 2007 at 4:16 pm

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def recommend milk thistle, tincture form is quite effective
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