Party Vibe

with politicians I can’t really blame them to some extent, we are supposed to have moved on in Europe from bitter fighting between left and right which nearly led to nuclear war, its no different from business or any other environment which tries to balance competition with consensus.

maybe the reality is most people now prefer “middle of the road” politics as opposed to extremes which can and have led to civil conflict and then the uniformed authorities enforcing strong power from above to calm things down (or countries actually breaking up along ethnic/cultural divisions) as has happened in Europe in previous times

as for the people the bulk of them have never really been that interested in changing society as a whole but making life easier and more pleasurable for themselves and maybe a group of family/friends who agree with their views. bear in mind too that as others have said it is so easy for young people to afford gadgets and indulge in hedonism, especially playing loud music, staying up late and or taking intoxicants.

One important factor is that activities our parents (who by and large otherwise did love us to a great extent) would have judged and criticised us for much more harshly in the 1980s are tolerated or even supported by todays parents. Which removes a big conflict point from families thus diminishing a lot of the spirit of youth rebellion.

1980s Dad would be telling his son/daughter “turn down that music, it is way too loud” – 2013 Dad is jokingly saying to them “when I was your age I mixed with vinyl, and computers were for nerds and suits and we wouldn’t have dreamed up such things as dubstep…”

@Lshak 540403 wrote:

People are not intact with nature any more, even I am slightly guilt, when is the last time you went to the park and read a book? Or went to the woods and had a long walk on your own?

The park(s) in my town are full of noisy kids (which is fair enough as its what they are there for) and some distance away from the estate I live in. And the woods here full of dogshit from owners who won’t clean up properly after their mutts because unlike on the street there isn’t a council warden or CCTV watching them or the dogshit bin is full and no one has notified the Council – to them that is “activism” (like a dirty protest) but calling the Council is too much effort but nor will they pay a few pence extra in council tax for a extra cleaner.

I do read books quite regularly and my TV is rarely switched on (I only got it for when my mum and sister visit as I had a old analogue one and the freeview box stopped working)

@Lshak 540409 wrote:

I’m no saying some politicians are great people and hard workers but I am saying these people will get no where in the political industry being nice and genuine. Unless they fake it to make it, but you can always see the truth.

The same applies to any industry TBH. I have to do things at work which aren’t particularly nice (like covert intercepts of telephone calls to check that staff are delivering acceptable levels of service) but they have to be done.

Even on here having to scrutinise every new user who is “a bit foreign” in case they are spammers worthy only of virtual geese being set on them isn’t very friendly (and worse that about 80% of girls who sign up here now are actually foreign spammers, because the spam teams know that the internet is male dominated and people might let their guard down) but we have to do it to guard the forum.

With TV those of us above our 30s grew up in times when there was not 24 hour TV as the Communications Ministry or Post Office of most European countries ran the TV transmitters and their governments thought it was excessive especially for children. (also the transmitters use a lot of electricity which cost money to keep running and there was less advertising).