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  • Why do we still get up at cockcrow and when the cows moo,
    when only 5% of the population work within agriculture or fishing?

    Why does everything have to take place in the same rhythm and pace,
    resulting in a huge problem with our infrastructure?

    Why has the societal framework primarily been arranged to suit
    people working from
    8 am to 4 pm?
    Let the tyranny of A-time end. Let us create a B-society.
    Let us create B-patterns in our work and in our families.
    Let us have quiet mornings and active evenings.
    Life is too short for traffic jams. Let us have more all-night shops!

    There is a general consensus that, in the future, Denmark and many other
    countries will have to make a living from the inner processes of thought,
    i.e. ideas, creativity, innovation and design. In the innovation society we
    will be paid for thinking – and this work of thought is an inner process best
    stimulated when working rhythms and working hours are individual.
    It therefore becomes important to work when one is most productive.

    B-society has good social economics as it generates quality of life as well
    as productivity if B-persons work when they are at their mental peak.

    B-Science
    Science has shown that our biological rythms through ”a day” (i.e.
    ”Nychthemeron” = ” a day and a night”) are regulated by so called
    ”clock-genes”.

    B-persons has an inner day-and-night lasting 25-27 hours, whereas A-persons
    has one that runs through approximately 23 hours.

    Any individual has it´s own inner rythm throgh one day-and-night (”Circadian
    rythm”) and it´s own sense of time for time and planning of time. There are
    lots of different kinds of circadian rythms. Most people are B-persons, which
    means that their circadian rythm has a cycle that runs through 25 hours.
    Therfore these persons has a tendency to stretch their ”nychthemeron”.
    B-persons finds it easy to stay awake in the evening; but has difficulties
    waking up in the morning – the time where the A-persons are most active.
    Every human has a so called inner clock, which is regulated by the earlier
    mentioned clock-genes.

    A B-person has a strive for staying awake untill late at night – for instance,
    to go to bed at 1 or 2 a.m. and then sleep a little longer in the morning.

    If a B-person and an A-person goes to sleep at the same time, and rise at the
    same time early, the morning wil be experienced differently as the body-temperature
    of the A-person is higher than that of the B-person at this point. The
    B-person therefore has a very good reason for feeling drowsy, as it is still
    ”night” (”time for sleep”) for the B-person.

    Further, one family has been followed and tested for several years in
    the
    USA. They have “FASPS”, familial advanced sleep phase syndrome.
    See, for example, http://www.hhmi.org/news/ptacek2.html.
    A group of scientists has found out that humans that are extremely
    A-persons has a genetic flaw or disturbance.


    15 – 25 percent of the population are B-persons, 10 -15 percent are A-persons.
    The rest of the population are more or less either one or the other, or
    something in between.


    B-work
    B-Society’s is working towards a more flexible labour market.

    B-Work is flexible and gives you the possibility to work in accord
    to your own rhythm.

    There are both good bottom line and higher life quality in B-Work.

    B-Society is convinced that it is necessary to force a showdown
    over the industrial society’s centralized time discipline, according
    to which everybody must come at a particular moment and leave
    at a particular moment, and where life is compartmentalized into
    time for work, time for family, time for leisure and time for vacations.
    There is enormous waste of resources in the society organized
    according to the ‘larks’ with rigid office hours and misunderstandings
    around efficiency of working time. For today much work is carried
    out independently of time and place. More and more people can work
    anywhere and at any time, and more and more work is invisible in
    the process of production. We should therefore move from Chronos
    designating the mechanical and apportioned clock to Kairos
    designating the most opportune times for work. Hence, it is about
    working at those times when one is being at his or her most productive
    instead of being parked at work from one particular moment to
    another particular moment in order to demonstrate one’s involvement,
    yet then perform the most productive work at home in front of a
    computer in the evening hours. It is a fact that it is unproductive for
    the ‘owls’ dealing with knowledge, creativity and innovation to be at
    work at 8:00 without being present mentally since their productivity is
    peaking in the afternoon and in the evening. It is different rhythms of
    people that generate good bottom line in the innovation-driven society.



    B-Certification
    B-Society is working with B-Certification of employers that accept
    and respect the working rhythm of the ‘owls’. B-Certification will enable
    the ‘owls’ to navigate in the labour market and find those workplaces
    that have actually implemented flexible working hours as well as show
    respect to and accept of life and work rhythm of the ‘owls’.


    B-Society
    B-Society will create a new daily rhythm in schools and other
    institutions as an alternative to the current rhythm of “early at work
    and early at home”.


    The society’s time structures based on habits of the early riser’s
    are not untouchable natural laws even though it can easily seem so
    from looking at the ways in which we have organized our lives. No.
    The ‘owl’ has got the right to say: “Give me the late riser’s rhythm at
    work, at home and in society. Let me come to work at
    11:00 and go
    home at
    20:00. Let me have quiet mornings to read my newspaper and
    ease into the day gently and peacefully”.



    B-Politics
    B-Society will create a more flexible society that supports the way of life
    of the ‘owls’ as well. A society which accepts and respects a later start of
    the working day because it suits a person’s individual rhythm and lifestyle.
    For it is persons’ different rhythms that underpin the growth of social wealth.
    When a person works in accord to his or her rhythm, it will furthermore
    result in higher life quality and hence less stress.


    It is the widely held opinion that Denmark’s prosperous future will depend
    on the inner mental processes: ideas, creativity, innovation and design.
    In the innovation-driven society we are paid to think, and mental work is
    an inner process that is stimulated most successfully through individual
    work rhythms and working hours. It is therefore a matter of working at the
    time of the day when an individual’s productivity is at its highest.


    There are good social and economical benefits in the acceptance of the
    ‘owls’ as it creates both life quality and productivity because these persons
    can work when they are peaking mentally.

    I am definitely a B person…

    out of curiosity, does this info come from Denmark? It seems to be written in the style of English used in translated documents from Denmark (i.e almost perfect formal British English but with some constructions of sentences closer to German)

    I was looking at some papers from “Fra r[SIZE=-1]ådet til Tinget” (discussing how technology affects our society) that are written in the same way….

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    I am definetely a B person too [which would be why I am self employed :laugh_at:]

    Working with the larks is a nightmare unless I am halfway through a 24 hour rotation [ie have been going to bed so late and later every day that I am up from say 5 am to 8pm – then they ask me to slow down :laugh_at:cos they arent awake when I hit the office :biggreen: {they never laughed at me in the mornings ever again :groucho: they needed more caffeine to get through that morning than I get through in 2 days}

    am defo a b person, amost to the point of bein nocturnal !

    I’d have thort the vats majority of people were b people here 2 be honest. On occasions where ure basically nocturnal e.g clubbing holidays, festivals (if u sleep at all) etc (u kno sorta thing i mean) I always feel so much healthier n body just feel more at home. Except for the blinding hangovers and come-downs….

    bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb nuf said.

    B person, no doubt there…

    definitely a B person!:groucho:

    hmm, I wonder if there is almost an undeclared civil war between A and B people?

    it seems that “A” people control a lot of politics and business, but B people control the “fun/hedonistic” bits of society like raves, night-life, party drugs culture..

    I’m a B person, my body clock is all over the shop, luckily being self employed I am able to still put in the effort – just in a different time frame that suits me (11am-11pm, or 12pm-4am on and off.)

    My other half is a strict A person, which makes for a very fun relationship lol I’m always trying to be converted but it doesnt work, might also have something to do with the fact I lived in new zealand & australia for a few years so I’m still adjusting to the time zone.

    General Lighting wrote:
    it seems that “A” people control a lot of politics and business, but B people control the “fun/hedonistic” bits of society like raves, night-life, party drugs culture..

    There are a lot of B people in Business, its just the creative side, rather than the number crunching up at dawn side, thing is you always need a bit of both for balance so having A people running the shop while you are busy being Mr or Mrs B then it works well.

    danielb92 wrote:
    There are a lot of B people in Business, its just the creative side, rather than the number crunching up at dawn side, thing is you always need a bit of both for balance so having A people running the shop while you are busy being Mr or Mrs B then it works well.

    true, but in Britain (particularly in larger organisations) and maybe in other countries I have always felt the A people considered themselves superior to the B people and for a long time have exerted control over them – which is what the original article is saying.

    The creative side in UK industry is usually marginalised (even our own creative industries have been destroyed in power games, look at how our TV industry is now fucked over for instance)

    I think this is definitely caused by the A-persons but they have even done so at their own expense of their own mental health… what is worse though is they inflict their control structures on everybody..

    http://www.partyvibe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=23882

    Incidentally anyone (Angel?) know where the original article came from? It sounds like something that “[SIZE=-1]Fra rådet til tinget” might have produced but I think that newsletter normally just talks about computers and technology..

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      Staff

      The article Timid Rabbit has posted is from a Danish organisation called

      “B – Society.. An alternative to 8 – 16 Society”

      http://b-samfund.dk/index.php/775314

      And in English

      http://b-samfund.dk/index.php/842694

      The article is translated from Danish to English


        Staff

        I’m an A + B person..

        Late in bed and early up :weee::weee:

        I have always been like that ( can be rather boring sometimes )

        Definatly Late nighter. Seeing as i’m usualy up until the early hours of the moring. I like to sleep all day when i finaly do pass out.

        Yay, i’m an owl. I heard one last night hooting away outside my window. I love living in the countryside.

        raaa

        I go through phases, sometimes im an A person, others a B person. It changes from month to month. pretty strange really

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