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April 20, 2006 at 4:33 pm

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General Lighting

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definitelhy one to watch here

and if the BBC can claim TOTP is a private party then its a precedent set for the country..

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TOTP ‘may breach licensing law’

BBC chart show Top of the Pops may be breaking the law by hosting live music without a licence, according to west London council officials.

But there will be no attempt to stop this week’s show – even though it could technically breach the Licensing Act.

Hammersmith & Fulham Council said it depended on whether the recordings at BBC Television Centre were interpreted as public or private events.

A BBC spokesman said a licence would be obtained if one was required.

“The recording of live performances before a limited, invited studio audience has always been treated by the BBC and the council as constituting a live event not requiring a live performance licence,” he said.

“In the event that a different approach is now required, the BBC will apply for the appropriate licence.”

‘Essential’ audiences

The council’s attention was reportedly drawn to the programme after it staged an open-air concert at TV Centre on Saturday featuring US rock band Red Hot Chili Peppers.

“If they didn’t have an audience for Top of the Pops, it is our understanding that they wouldn’t be in breach of the Licensing Act,” council spokeswoman Louise Neilan told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme.

Her comments earned a stern rebuke from radio DJ Mike Read, who said live audiences had been “an essential part” of the show since it began in 1964.

Breaching the 2003 Licensing Act can result in a £20,000 fine and up to six months in prison.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/entertainment/4927542.stm

Published: 2006/04/20 15:08:59 GMT

© BBC MMVI
April 20, 2006 at 4:47 pm

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BioTech

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DEFINATELY one to keep an eye on.

:you_smart
April 20, 2006 at 6:07 pm

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Raj

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BioTech wrote:

DEFINATELY one to keep an eye on.

:you_smart

you knows it

fingers crossed :alien_abd
April 20, 2006 at 8:11 pm

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globalloon

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naughty auntie
April 21, 2006 at 11:42 am

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punks not dead .. (and I was only 5 when this was first out!)

Verse 1:

Hold Tight – Now we’re on our own
Cue light – Now it’s ready to roll
Tonight – How I’ve waited for aggravated for years
It’s fun – Oh I just can’t wait
Hold on – Do I look up to date
Your on – I’ll do anything if that’s the right thing to see

Bridge:

Does it matter what is shown
Just as long as everyone knows
What is selling what to buy
The stock market for your hi-fi

Chorus:

Take the money – Leave the box
Everybody’s on Top Of The Pops

Verse 2:

There’s one – Born every day
Sing song – Then fade away
Ding dong – What’s the future in the pop music industry
Alright – So you make the grade
Hold tight – To the buck you made
Just wait – You been rated for constipated peak viewing time

Bridge:

Does it matter what is shown
Just as long as everyone knows
What’s in fashion what is seen
On the front of a television screen

Chorus:

Take the money – Leave the box
Everybody’s on Top Of The Pops

Instrumental.

Verse 3:

Hold Tight – Now we’re on our own
Cue light – Now it’s ready to roll
Tonight – How I’ve waited for aggravated for years
It’s fun – Oh I just can’t wait
Hold on – Do I look up to date
Your on – I’ll do anything if that’s the right thing to see

Bridge:

Does it matter what is shown
Just as long as everyone knows
What is selling what to buy
The stock market for your hi-fi

Chorus:

Take the money – Leave the box
Everybody’s on Top Of The Pops
Pay the money – Watch the box
Everybody’s on Top Of The Pops
Everybody’s on Top Of The Pops

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April 22, 2006 at 11:39 am

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if the bbc are in breach of PEL so are the bands and equipment owners under the new admendments, also if they are doing the events with a aim to make money then they maybe on dodgy ground, not sure about that tho without rereading the act.
April 22, 2006 at 12:02 pm

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General Lighting

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much of the equipment is aunties own stuff (TOTP is a standing joke amongst bands as often they are miming and using instruments which don’t even make the right sound)

and to get a ticket to an auntie show you just ring up and its first come first served – same with those done at the London Studios (LWT), Teddington, Riverside, Shepperton etc…

been to LWT to watch comedies being recorded – didn’t have to pay or anything..

hang on if this goes through this means that every TV music show could be stopped, surely kiddies CD:UK is illegal then?

on a lighter note I bet you may have pogo’d to that song I posted up lyrics to (they were clever lyrics as well)
April 22, 2006 at 12:45 pm

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elraveon

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even if they are miming the bands are still liable
April 22, 2006 at 2:09 pm

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Raj

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elraveon wrote:

even if they are miming the bands are still liable

Wooo hoo

this is an unexpected can of worms and arent they very squirmy; watching for developments with bated breath

:alien_abd
April 22, 2006 at 2:17 pm

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General Lighting

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actually ISTR ITV companies investigating the potential use of regional TV studios in the 90s as music venues (to make more money as TV production increasingly moved to location shooting) which may indeed have fallen through because of the earlier version of this law..
April 23, 2006 at 1:59 pm

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General Lighting wrote:

actually ISTR ITV companies investigating the potential use of regional TV studios in the 90s as music venues (to make more money as TV production increasingly moved to location shooting) which may indeed have fallen through because of the earlier version of this law..

thats a real shame ; the sound proofing in those places would have meant we would have annoyed far less people with our love of music and dancing

and they are huge and we could have had lovely big parties too;

grrrr:rant: licensing laws :rant:
May 12, 2006 at 9:33 am

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General Lighting

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the1log wrote:

This has started to cause problems for the bbc. Old Jonathan Ross had to show a recording of Graham Coxon last night, and the beeb are begging the staff to be the audiences for top of the pops(as the staff are allready allowed in the building). Sorry Auntie, but none of this would be happening if the ob didn’t have these crazy laws

yeah, they have just caved in and are applying for a license..

on another note, surely I’m not the only one who remembers those song lyrics? 😉
May 12, 2006 at 9:47 am

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BioTech

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General Lighting wrote:

yeah, they have just caved in and are applying for a license..

on another note, surely I’m not the only one who remembers those song lyrics? 😉

I vaguely remember the chourus if that makes you feel a little better 🙂
May 12, 2006 at 10:02 am

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General Lighting

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the1log wrote:

Sorry mate, don’t know them. must be too young or too dumb

nah, just too young

I was only a kid when that track was out…. but there was also a punk revival in the 80s (at least for angst-ridden teenagers)
May 12, 2006 at 11:18 am

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Mariasupial

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Sorry GL, am not too far from your age but I don’t remember the song.

Good to speak to you last night btw!
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