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  • djprocess;268407 wrote:
    yeah its wierd when i take 2c-b i just dont want to drink at all and ill pretty much stop drinking alc as soon as the effects come on… where as on other ‘normal’ drugs they usualy make me drink like a fish…:wink:

    heh, alcohol does go pretty well with the ‘normal’ drugs it has to be said.don’t like drinkin shit loads but getting a nice wee buzz goin with the alcohol can make the high seem amplified…always a good thing raaa

    djprocess;268387 wrote:
    ive always gone by the rule that if in doubt, get pissed!

    i found it either gives you confidence as your pissed, your either pissed so you stop caring about what you were worrying about, or you pass out and wake up and its all okay… (hopefully):love:

    i usually always have to have a bit of dutch courage before i take shrooms, seems to smooth the transition between being sober and tripping, which can sometimes be the scariest bit…

    (I wouldnt listen to me tho…)

    When im doing bugle if i start feeling dodge, which is usually after doing a phatty, i always find alcohol helps me calm down. I always start any session with a couple pints, Usually puts me in the happy frame of mind! 😉

    DontBeliveTheHype!;268397 wrote:
    yeah thats a f’in nightmare when that happens … i have woke up with no cash no wallet no rugs and no bloody cigs.. when i had some of all the last time i could remeber any thing … then you have to try and get home skint and coming down like a bitch with a nasty hangover

    I think Daftfader can relate to that one! Waking up to find his lift was now a few hundred miles away at home with his train tickets :laugh_at:

    starlaugh;268436 wrote:
    I think Daftfader can relate to that one! Waking up to find his lift was now a few hundred miles away at home with his train tickets :laugh_at:

    Oh yeah his legendary disappearin act. i remember talking to you on the phone about that. Oh how i laughed. Good ol’ daft, legend! :love:

    DJCliffy;268433 wrote:
    When im doing bugle if i start feeling dodge, which is usually after doing a phatty, i always find alcohol helps me calm down. I always start any session with a couple pints, Usually puts me in the happy frame of mind! 😉

    maybe why..

    Cocaethylene is the ethyl ester of benzoylecgonine. It is chemically related to cocaine, which is the corresponding methyl ester. Cocaethylene is formed in the body when cocaine and alcohol have been taken simultaneously: the transesterification is catalysed by carboxylesterases in the liver. It does not occur naturally in coca leaves.
    Cocaethylene produces a more euphoric stimulation than cocaine in most users, and is longer lasting in the body. Some studies suggest that it may have a higher cardiovascular toxicity than cocaine. Cocaethylene however is less potent at binding to serotonin & norepinephrine transporters than cocaine is.[1]

    Cocaethylene – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    djprocess;268439 wrote:
    maybe why..

    Cocaethylene is the ethyl ester of benzoylecgonine. It is chemically related to cocaine, which is the corresponding methyl ester. Cocaethylene is formed in the body when cocaine and alcohol have been taken simultaneously: the transesterification is catalysed by carboxylesterases in the liver. It does not occur naturally in coca leaves.
    Cocaethylene produces a more euphoric stimulation than cocaine in most users, and is longer lasting in the body. Some studies suggest that it may have a higher cardiovascular toxicity than cocaine. Cocaethylene however is less potent at binding to serotonin & norepinephrine transporters than cocaine is.[1]

    Cocaethylene – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    too many long words there! 😉 Seriously tho sometimes when im on a session if i ain’t got a beer with me it can freak me out. I have to have beer when playing with chalk. Just chalk tho nothing else! If im on mud then beer is the last thing i want, unless it’s a single bottle of cold cold refreshing lager. Ah the aroma, ah the texture, Im getting…..pissed!

    The key to dealing with a bad trip ime is distraction. Acid in particular is easily distracted. It reminds me of a little child, excited with every detail of the world, can get spooked suddenly but has the attention span of a knat. :p

    i think the thing with a bad trip is te more you worry about it the more you get stuck in a mental loop if you know what i mean

    so just go with the flow

    DJCliffy;268442 wrote:
    too many long words there! 😉 Seriously tho sometimes when im on a session if i ain’t got a beer with me it can freak me out. I have to have beer when playing with chalk. Just chalk tho nothing else! If im on mud then beer is the last thing i want, unless it’s a single bottle of cold cold refreshing lager. Ah the aroma, ah the texture, Im getting…..pissed!

    basicaly what that means is that when you take coke and alchohol at the same time it forms a compleatly diferant drug in your blood stream .. as the two drugs react with each other .. and that had diferant effects to either one on there own 😉 .. it’s belived to be more toxic to your heart but more euphoric and longer lasting but less in intencity?

    DontBeliveTheHype!;268577 wrote:
    basicaly what that means is that when you take coke and alchohol at the same time it forms a compleatly diferant drug in your blood stream .. as the two drugs react with each other .. and that had diferant effects to either one on there own 😉 .. it’s belived to be more toxic to your heart but more euphoric and longer lasting but less in intencity?

    Yeah i got that part. Bit worrying that it’s more toxic but i suppose its all about moderation innit! 😉

    DJCliffy;268585 wrote:
    Yeah i got that part. Bit worrying that it’s more toxic but i suppose its all about moderation innit! 😉

    tbh m8 the amount of other crap you get with your G of coke is probably alot worce than what ever this combo does

    DontBeliveTheHype!;268587 wrote:
    tbh m8 the amount of other crap you get with your G of coke is probably alot worce than what ever this combo does

    Yeah innit man :crazy_diz

    “Much of the seized cocaine is found to have been cut with phenacetin – a pharmaceutical drug banned some years ago in Britain and most other nations for causing kidney failure and cancer.
    Other drugs used for cutting or “bashing” cocaine include lignocaine (a dental painkiller), tetramisole (used for de-worming pets) and boric acid (used to kill cockroaches).”

    BBC NEWS | UK | Cheap cocaine ‘barely 10% pure’

    Phenacetin is now being widely used as a cutting agent to adulterate illegally supplied cocaine due to the similar physical features of the two drugs. [3]

    URL=”http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phenacetin&action=edit&section=4″%5Dedit%5B/URL Safety

    Phenacetin, and products containing phenacetin, have been shown in an animal model to have the side effect and after-effect of carcinogenesis. In humans, many case reports have implicated products containing phenacetin in urothelial neoplasms, especially transitional cell carcinoma of the renal pelvis. In one prospective series, phenacetin was associated with an increased risk of death due to urologic or renal diseases, death due to cancers, and death due to cardiovascular diseases.[4] In addition, people with glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase deficiency may experience acute hemolysis, or dissolution of blood cells, while taking this drug. Acute hemolysis is possible in the case of patients who develop an IgM response to phenacetin leading to immune complexes that bind to erythrocytes in blood. The erythrocytes are then lysed when the complexes activate the complement cascade.
    Chronic use of phenacetin is known to lead to analgesic nephropathy characterized by renal papillary necrosis.[5][6][7] This is a condition which results in destruction of some or all of the renal papillae in the kidneys.
    Because it has been shown to cause cancer in laboratory animals, the question has been raised about whether phenacetin should be classified as less than effective

    Phenacetin – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    long story short.. shit coke gives you cancer. great. :yakk:

    djprocess;268601 wrote:
    long story short.. shit coke gives you cancer. great. :yakk:

    Everything these days gives you cancer. I don’t worry about such things. If i was to believe everything you hear about such dangers i wouldn’t leave my house! :laugh_at:

    I try not to do shit coke tho these days. Never ever get shit these days, If it is shit then i complain and take it back!

    DJCliffy;268659 wrote:
    Everything these days gives you cancer. I don’t worry about such things. If i was to believe everything you hear about such dangers i wouldn’t leave my house! :laugh_at:

    I try not to do shit coke tho these days. Never ever get shit these days, If it is shit then i complain and take it back!

    can i get a recipt with that 20 rock please boss .. thank you very much :weee:

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