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@MC G-Tek 519317 wrote:
Dude, just get some mandy or a couple of pills in the club instead – at least you know what that does to ya, and anything else is just a poor substitute in my opinion.
And have even less idea about what your getting. 😛
Here’s a list of some of the chemicals that get sold as MDMA:
para-Methoxyamphetamine – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < very likely to harm or even kill you
And the endless array of piperazines:
Benzylpiperazine – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
2,3-Dichlorophenylpiperazine – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dibenzylpiperazine – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Trifluoromethylphenylpiperazine – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
para-Fluorophenylpiperazine – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Or there’s speed, cathinones, 2c-x’s and endless amounts more. The only way your going to have any idea of what your getting is to use a test kit. DanceSafe.Org: Drug Information and Harm Reduction Resources | DanceSafe.Org sells them.
Read up the trip reports on the ABPs, personally I found you get some of the MDMA style loved up feeling but no where near as strong, and virtually no stim effect at all, you get a little closer at high doses but that works out very expensive and has some dodgy side effects…. Personally I wont be buy ABP 5 or 6 again
I keep searching for the new legal version, but right now I dont think anything on the legals market comes close to the real thing
@Mezz 519357 wrote:
Read up the trip reports on the ABPs, personally I found you get some of the MDMA style loved up feeling but no where near as strong, and virtually no stim effect at all, you get a little closer at high doses but that works out very expensive and has some dodgy side effects…. Personally I wont be buy ABP 5 or 6 again
I keep searching for the new legal version, but right now I dont think anything on the legals market comes close to the real thing
What “dodgy” side effects? You could actually share these with us. Y’know harm reduction and all that.
And you’ll be searching for a long time thinking like that. Ever thought there might be something BETTER than MDMA in the sea of RCs available?
@eye. 519361 wrote:
What “dodgy” side effects? You could actually share these with us. Y’know harm reduction and all that.
And you’ll be searching for a long time thinking like that. Ever thought there might be something BETTER than MDMA in the sea of RCs available?
I already did share info in my detailed trip report, and as above told the the poster to read trip reports ( plural ) not just mine ; )
You are right though, no RC will ever mimic MDMA exactly ( thought many try to and claim to ), but better is subjective and depends what you like…………. personally I love MDMA just the way it is, the only way anything could be better is the same effects, cheaper and with no comedown lol
@Mezz 519372 wrote:
I already did share info in my detailed trip report, and as above told the the poster to read trip reports ( plural ) not just mine ; )
You are right though, no RC will ever mimic MDMA exactly ( thought many try to and claim to ), but better is subjective and depends what you like…………. personally I love MDMA just the way it is, the only way anything could be better is the same effects, cheaper and with no comedown lol
Sorry could you link me to that? 🙂
Yeah, true it’s all down to your body and what you enjoy. 100mg of 6-apb (which is a decidedly average dose) is enough to entertain me for a night, I get no unwanted side effects, a great loved up experience with minimal stimulation and slight trippyness. Which is what i prefer actually lol.
@eye. 519326 wrote:
And have even less idea about what your getting. 😛
Here’s a list of some of the chemicals that get sold as MDMA:
para-Methoxyamphetamine – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < very likely to harm or even kill youAnd the endless array of piperazines:
Benzylpiperazine – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
2,3-Dichlorophenylpiperazine – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dibenzylpiperazine – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Trifluoromethylphenylpiperazine – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
para-Fluorophenylpiperazine – Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaOr there’s speed, cathinones, 2c-x’s and endless amounts more. The only way your going to have any idea of what your getting is to use a test kit. DanceSafe.Org: Drug Information and Harm Reduction Resources | DanceSafe.Org sells them.
Yep, there’s some evil shit gets sold as Mandy, but I’ve been doing it long enough to know the look and feel of real MD. If it ain’t right, I ain’t buying it, simples. I’d seriously take the Pepsi challenge with the stuff nowadays man!
@eye. 519361 wrote:
Ever thought there might be something BETTER than MDMA in the sea of RCs available?
Nope, not for me dude!
MDMA – The Original & Best!
@eye. 519383 wrote:
Sorry could you link me to that? 🙂
Yeah, true it’s all down to your body and what you enjoy. 100mg of 6-apb (which is a decidedly average dose) is enough to entertain me for a night, I get no unwanted side effects, a great loved up experience with minimal stimulation and slight trippyness. Which is what i prefer actually lol.
The link below is for ABP6, Im sure I wrote a report for ABP5 and something else I tried which I was convinced was an ABP combo but cant find them right now
http://www.partyvibe.com/forums/research-chemicals/42381-my-benzo-fury-report-mkat-10.html
Funny reading your own trip reports, things not quite as I remember lol But yeah the worrying side was the quantity required to get the nice effects also caused me to go slightly cross-eyed and see double………… could be related to the fact I have better eye sight in one eye than the other and had laser corrective surgery several years ago……… but due to this side effect I would never risk ABP again
I also found it mild, took a long time to kick in, had a short burn and basically worked out poor value for money
@MC G-Tek 519386 wrote:
Yep, there’s some evil shit gets sold as Mandy, but I’ve been doing it long enough to know the look and feel of real MD. If it ain’t right, I ain’t buying it, simples. I’d seriously take the Pepsi challenge with the stuff nowadays man!
Nope, not for me dude!
MDMA – The Original & Best!
It’s a bad situation. There’s a batch of PMA pills going round up north at the moment.
Drug Alert!! – Potentially contaminated ecstasy tablets are believed to be in circulation in the Greater Manchester area.
The pills are heart-shaped and available in the colours purple, green, yellow and blue.
Poorly pressed and with a crumbly consistency.These pills are believed to have caused 3 deaths and a number of hospitalisations.
We advise to safely dispose of any of these pills in your possession.If you do decide to use these pills then take no more than one and do not re-dose.
Update: Report of these pills in South and West Wales. Report of PMA/PMMA in Derbyshire.
Warning issued to drug users in Derbyshire | This is Derbyshire
Police warn of contaminated ecstasy tablets after three deaths | Society | guardian.co.uk
Ecstasy fears as two die and several ill after possible contamination | Society | guardian.co.uk
When he says “take no more than one” he should be saying “throw them the fuck away.” I agree that you can have an idea about what your buying with experience/taste/smell/effect but for identifying a substance without putting yourself at risk, a kit is the easiest and cheapest way.
Ha, ol MD does take some beating 😉 It was a research chemical too not so long ago as I’m sure you know. Who knows what will be created in the future? This is why the RC scene interests me so much.
@Mezz 519404 wrote:
The link below is for ABP6, Im sure I wrote a report for ABP5 and something else I tried which I was convinced was an ABP combo but cant find them right now
http://www.partyvibe.com/forums/research-chemicals/42381-my-benzo-fury-report-mkat-10.html
Funny reading your own trip reports, things not quite as I remember lol But yeah the worrying side was the quantity required to get the nice effects also caused me to go slightly cross-eyed and see double………… could be related to the fact I have better eye sight in one eye than the other and had laser corrective surgery several years ago……… but due to this side effect I would never risk ABP again
I also found it mild, took a long time to kick in, had a short burn and basically worked out poor value for money
Hmm. I do get eye wiggles that can cause double vision on both Md and 6apb. It’s a common side effect for chemicals of that group. Im not sure if that’s what your talking about. But if it does nothing for you or you have unwanted effects it’s smart to leave it alone 🙂
Good TR btw
@eye. 519405 wrote:
It’s a bad situation. There’s a batch of PMA pills going round up north at the moment.
When he says “take no more than one” he should be saying “throw them the fuck away.” I agree that you can have an idea about what your buying with experience/taste/smell/effect but for identifying a substance without putting yourself at risk, a kit is the easiest and cheapest way.
Ha, ol MD does take some beating 😉 It was a research chemical too not so long ago as I’m sure you know. Who knows what will be created in the future? This is why the RC scene interests me so much.
That’s worrying about those PMA pills man – that’s why I prefer MD though, pills are a gamble sometimes unfortunately. Unscrupulous cunts will happily make money from fake black-market items, it’s easy money and there’s very little chance of the Old Bill being called.
When was MDMA a research chemical by the way? Must have been a while back, the stuff was first created 101 years ago. Only thing I can find through google is for the US in the early 80’s (after it was redsicovered), on wikipedia, relating to the dea’s policy of scheduling all drugs for 6-12 months – and at the end of that, they ignored the findings of their own judge and classified it higher than it shoulda been, bellends!
@MC G-Tek 519408 wrote:
That’s worrying about those PMA pills man – that’s why I prefer MD though, pills are a gamble sometimes unfortunately. Unscrupulous cunts will happily make money from fake black-market items, it’s easy money and there’s very little chance of the Old Bill being called.
When was MDMA a research chemical by the way? Must have been a while back, the stuff was first created 101 years ago. Only thing I can find through google is for the US on wikipedia relating to the dea’s policy of scheduling all drugs for 6-12 months – and at the end of that, they ignored the findings of their own judge and classified it higher than it shoulda been, bellends!
MDMA – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
There you go. From what I understand, it was being used for its psychoactive effects from 1970 but as much was understood about it as many of the RCs about today. 1978 was the first published report regarding its effect on humans. They only studied the effects on the brain using an MRI machine for the first time last year and found out what scientists had theorised for years.
This is a good documentary on Alexander Shulgin, the man who popularised MDMA and created many of the chemicals me and others adore 😉
[video]http://www.youtube.com/#/watch?v=dDNqpi66Ggs[/video]
@eye. 519407 wrote:
Hmm. I do get eye wiggles that can cause double vision on both Md and 6apb. It’s a common side effect for chemicals of that group. Im not sure if that’s what your talking about. But if it does nothing for you or you have unwanted effects it’s smart to leave it alone 🙂
Good TR btw
Like I said funny reading back my own trip report, was several months ago and from reading what I wrote at the time I did actually enjoy it, but the only part I remember was the panic from the negative effect on my eyes, and knowing not to do it again because who much the idea of damaging by eye sight is so scary
I never had any negative effects to my eyesight on proper MDMA……….. MDMA just seems like a far safer, cleaner drug with effects I know I love and a long history of known effects compared to many of the new RCs the effects of which are relatively unknown. Any politician into true harm reduction would legalise the real thing ( with proper education ) to drive the new unknowns off the market
@eye. 519411 wrote:
MDMA – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
There you go. From what I understand, it was being used for its psychoactive effects from 1970 but as much was understood about it as many of the RCs about today. 1978 was the first published report regarding its effect on humans. They only studied the effects on the brain using an MRI machine for the first time last year and found out what scientists had theorised for years.
This is a good documentary on Alexander Shulgin, the man who popularised MDMA and created many of the chemicals me and others adore 😉
[video]http://www.youtube.com/#/watch?v=dDNqpi66Ggs[/video]
Wicked, cheers mate. I’ll check that documentary out in a bit, nice one dude.
@Mezz 519413 wrote:
MDMA just seems like a far safer, cleaner drug with effects I know I love and a long history of known effects compared to many of the new RCs the effects of which are relatively unknown. Any politician into true harm reduction would legalise the real thing ( with proper education ) to drive the new unknowns off the market
My sentiments exactly dude, brilliantly put.
Just looking through this.. the eye wiggles (nystagmus) are a common side effect of many serotonegenic drugs.
I used to love getting em on drone, i’d drop like a 350mg bomb and rail a 100mg line.. 10 mins later rail another 100mg line.. 10 mins later be sat on my sofa absoloutely phucked in complete euphoria with crazy eye wiggles and gurns – i couldn’t see at all really, the world was a crazy blur so i just sat there in ecstacy listening to trance chewing my face off lol
Damn i want a line now 🙁
@Mezz 519413 wrote:
Like I said funny reading back my own trip report, was several months ago and from reading what I wrote at the time I did actually enjoy it, but the only part I remember was the panic from the negative effect on my eyes, and knowing not to do it again because who much the idea of damaging by eye sight is so scary
I never had any negative effects to my eyesight on proper MDMA……….. MDMA just seems like a far safer, cleaner drug with effects I know I love and a long history of known effects compared to many of the new RCs the effects of which are relatively unknown. Any politician into true harm reduction would legalise the real thing ( with proper education ) to drive the new unknowns off the market
That’s funny, MDMA makes my eyes jitter all over the place. Evenly dilated pupils are nothing to worry about either although I’ve heard having one pupil bigger than the other is a bad sign. Even THC relaxes the eye muscles and causes temporary longsightedness. That’s a great point about regulating MDMA (or any of the popular drugs), the “legal high” market would dissapear (good riddance) and leave just the people fascinated with new and novel chemicals, who (mostly) are pretty responsible. Sounds like a win – win to me 😉
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