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  • I agree that human activitee is a contribution to CO2 emisions.

    I am No scientist, so I can not say for sure that C02 is the sole course for Global Warming. (for instance volcanic activite emits sulpher & co2 ect).

    The point that I was raising about the Gia Hypothisis, is that evan if as is scientificaly everdent in that the Ice caps and world gaciers are melting, wether this be from the green house effect from Co2, or whole in the ozone layer from Nucleur test or CFC’s;

    The fact remains that in terms of Gia, all this Water melting will in effect, cool down the Earth, (I spose).

    Places like America has had Typhoons ect for hundreds of years and some of the extreame weather that is atributed to climate change in the media, it is very dificult to metographicaly, soley atribute from the course and effects of climate change.

    (That is indeed, if are climate is changing dew to Co2)

    Whether or not our climate is changing dew to CO2, no one can deny that the BiG “Cut Emissions” campaign is worth BiG money to those profiting from it!

    I am a bit young to remeber the last ice age -::-//(*_*)\ -::-:

    I have read your comments on the “disappearing glaciers” at;

    http://www.partyvibe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=15893

    with interest.

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    You commented that;

    it’s interesting that every single peer reviewed piece of research into climate change comes to the conclusion that human activity is causing climate change

    Please could you add some links for this evidance?

    I try and stay informed with the Greenpeace and FOE Campaigns, who do sugest a similar link to co2 and climate change.

    CO2 causes the green house effect, suposedly, reflecting rays, which would otherwise escape out of the atmospheare, back to Earth.

    The Whole in the Ozone layey, which was more in the Media in the 1980s and 1990s, as the reason to the ice caps melting in the antartic, is reported to be the effects of CFC use, in friges and airosoles, which has largly been reduced now by manufactures, thanks to corporate responsibility and pressure from campaining groups like friends of the Earth and Greanpeace. The Greenhouse effect was repoted to have been leting harmful effects that the Ozone layer, usaly reflects back to space, in to our atmospheare!

    It would seem that these two Media scares are a bit Paradoxic to each other, im not saying niether is acterly hapening, if they are then mabe thats worse, but surly, if co2 refects sun rays back to earth, then it may act as a ozone layer, and reflect some rays back to space, before they reach earth?

    I was aware that the climate does periodicaly change, as you mentioned, and understand that in victorian times the River Thames would freeze over, though in other times of medievil historie, it was reputedly hot!

    Please can you also provide a link for everdance that;

    the last ice age was at it’s peak 18 thousand years ago

    As Surly, this would have ment that those Romans walking round in England, in their tunics, round the time of st.Augustine, would have been freezing their Bollaks off.

    jonahug wrote:
    As Surly, this would have ment that those Romans walking round in England, in their tunics, round the time of st.Augustine, would have been freezing their Bollaks off.

    Dude wasnt the Romans about 2000 years ago?

    Sorry mate,

    Im no encylcapedia!

    I know though that they were about befor Jesus, when they adopted the Ancient Greek Gods, and gave them their own names!

    They then, having invented their own legal system, which is still respected by judjes and Law types today,

    whent round masacaring loads of inocent people who would not conform to there serve the empire or dye type atitude,

    some how theologicaly, crucified Jesus,

    then some time later adopted him as a Marta,

    hence Roman Cathlics!

    (sorry if I missed aything out).

    The Point I was making though, was that 200 years, is not a considrable amount of time considering the age of the ice caps,

    globalloon, mentioned that

    the last ice age was at it’s peak 18 thousand years ago

    I just presumed from logic that the Romans were stomping around in tunics 2000 years ago,

    whether in whooley tights, remains to be proven……

    Yes,

    Everdently enough, the Ice Caps are Melting, and have been everdently so, or at least as potraid in the Media, since the 1980’s.

    Recent News I saw on tv, showed a chunk of ice the size of London, snaping of the antartic, and begining its gradual float away, on its journey, thawring!

    Scientists have been recently saying on the News, that the Ice caps and Glacierse are melting quicker now than previously expected.

    It concerns me further, that if the scare of global warming and the accompining righsing Sea Levals are a reality, then why on Earth did New Labour propose to build 20 more Nuclear Power Stations around our Coasts, as if we are not all swiming around in enough Radioactive dishcharges from this Power crazed corupt and diobolical trade.

    Surly the Flooding,

    as indeed, other natraul disaters like Earth Quakes,

    for instance, which we occured here in east kent,

    this May, around Dungeness Nuclear Power Station,

    And Sellafield has also experianced Earth quakes,

    these natraul disasters could put the habitat lifes,

    and ecology of thousands at risk!

    An inquiry into a leak at the Selafield Nuclear Reactor,

    formerly known as windscale, found that the radioactive contaminated

    sediments of discharge pipes were subjected to a variety of phenominamam

    such as trawling, dregding and even Earth Quakes!

    This action was reportedly realy shaking up the Actinides, from the

    radioactive discharge sediments of these already Dangourise Nuclear Power

    Stations.

    I belive, that there is Scientific Everdance to Sugest that the Radioactrive sediments built up from the Discharge of Nuclear Power Stations in the Sea, and the previously Unacounted for dumping of Radio-active Contaminated Nuclear Waste, which whent on in the “Thachter” years for instance, may in itself be a contributionary course to Earth Quakes.

    This is dew to radioactive material eroding the oceanic crusts.

    dehydration of the oceanic crust

    Mineral-fluid partition coefficients can be used to calculate bulk eclogite- and lherzolite-fluid partition coefficients as a means to assess both the trace element composition of fluids that may be a product of dehydration of the oceanic crust and the effect of the subarc mantle on trace element fractionation during fluid fow. Results of this assessment have allowed us to provide fresh insight into certain longstanding problems related to the geochemistry of convergent margin magmas, such as their relative depletion in Nb, high Ce/Pb ratios, excesses in [238U] relative to [230Th] and the effects of fluid vs. melt metasomatism. In addition, our results afford the opportunity to evaluate the composition of material returned to the, deep mantle during subduction, which in turn provides constraints on geodynamic models concerning the fate of subducted oceanic crust.

    http://www.sc.doe.gov/bes/accomplishments/files/BES_Summary_Report_1991.pdf
    Reactivity and Mobility of Geologic Fluids:
    Constraints from Inorganic

    I think I agree with rach though,

    in that;

    humans are the biggest threat of all, we are the only creatures on earth who choose to disrupt the balance of the world

    jonahug wrote:
    Please could you add some links for this evidance?

    err, google? :groucho:

    or try

    http://www.ipcc.ch/

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    I try and stay informed with the Greenpeace and FOE Campaigns, who do sugest a similar link to co2 and climate change.

    it’s a bit wider than 2 pressure groups. the pentagon produced a report about 4 years ago which stated that the single biggest immediate threat to global security was human induced climate change. also see above (ipcc)

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    The Whole in the Ozone layey, which was more in the Media in the 1980s and 1990s, as the reason to the ice caps melting in the antartic,

    mate… :crazy_diz the ozone layer has nothing to do with climate change, except maybe that the damage done to it indicates what human activity can do to something that we depend on for life.

    the ozone layer protects from harmful radiation from the sun, making earth habitable, it has nothing to do with temperature

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    Please can you also provide a link for everdance that; the last ice age was 18000 years ago

    please can you find a site called http://www.google.co.uk ???

    these random, uninformed threads where you just chuck misinformation out there doesn’t make for an interesting discussion.

    by all means offer an opinion, be prepared to have it challenged, and be open minded enough to take on new information…

    can you lay off these rambles please?? think before you type??

    globalloon wrote:
    these random, uninformed threads where you just chuck misinformation out there doesn’t make for an interesting discussion.

    by all means offer an opinion, be prepared to have it challenged, and be open minded enough to take on new information…

    can you lay off these rambles please?? think before you type??

    i have to say jonahug i agree with dear old glo here, i’m sure your very passionate about what you want to say, but i find it exhausting reading your essays, and repeats of yourself and i’m not sure your entirely reading other peoples points of views with that much interest

    rach wrote:
    dear old glo

    oi, what’s with the “dear old”

    I’m quite spritely after a couple of cod liver oil tablets 😉

    You say contradictingly that;

    the ozone layer has nothing to do with climate change, except maybe that the damage done to it indicates what human activity can do to something that we depend on for life.

    the ozone layer protects from harmful radiation from the sun, making earth habitable, it has nothing to do with temperature

    It is strange though would you not agree that the whole in the largest whole in the Ozone layer is under the North Pole!

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