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  • http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4507485.stm

    The wife of the latest British soldier to be killed in Iraq has blamed Tony Blair for his death

    His widow, Ms Toward, told the ITV News Channel her message to Mr Blair was: “You should not have sent the troops over, you should not have done that.”

    If it was not for Mr Blair’s actions, “my children would still have their father today and I really do blame him for that”, she said.

    Mr Brown said the Iraq debate had now gone on for more than two years.

    “We believe we were making the right decisions in the British national economic interest.

    “Of course we have lessons to learn… about the way things were done, like the dossier.

    “But at the end of the day we wanted the security of Britain and the British national interest to be advanced.

    to me that comment screams the truth behind the war…

    £££

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    *edit: i’ve edited the title to match the report (ie Brown not Blair)

    the worst part of it is that according to the opinion polls at the time and my own discussions with people, Blair could have actually been brutally honest and said that in 2003, and at least half the UK population would have supported the war. He is actually getting hassle more for lying about the reasons than the war itself.

    Its often worth remembering that people like us who are progressive minded tend to surround ourselves with mostly like-minded people – but in the wider world there are plenty who would have just supported a war out of their own self-interest and jingoism…

    The tories would have gone to war as they have always supported the military industrial complex and imperialism. The leader of the Lib Dems has actually served in active combat.

    Think about the fuel protests of 2000, and the constant whining and moaning about petrol prices… even on SJ people are always whinging about petrol prices (cost of getting to parties) and I’m fairly sure I have seen posts supportive of the war on this angle alone.

    That said the economic sums don’t really add up now; they were made on the assumption the Iraqis would welcome their invaders “liberation” of their oil and natural resources…

    But as for the widow, realistically the politicians are only half to blame.

    If this country still had the draft (apparently the US still has it in some form!) or conscription I would be more sympathetic – but people make their own decision to join HM Forces, as did her husband, and she made the decision to marry a man knowing he was in the Forces and could be a casualty of war.

    He also signed up knowing that he could be called on to take others lives at the whim of politicans -but the enemy got there first.

    He could just as easily have become a builder or plumber (our country needs them as much as soldiers) and used his physical strength for less violent and destructive means, and had he done so those kids would still have their dad today.

    General Lighting wrote:
    If this country still had the draft (apparently the US still has it in some form!) or conscription I would be more sympathetic –

    i know a man who had been in the TA 3 years before the war started who was conscripted to fight in Iraq… despite having a new born baby…

    But I agree with you that many people would have supported the war if it had been presented in more honest terms… maybe even the UN? I just find it astounding that for over 2 years the govt deny their real reasons for starting a war, even tho it is obvious… then just come out with it 2 days before the election 😐

    Is there a full version of that speach, as that one sentence alone does somewhat lack context?

    elretardo87 wrote:
    Is there a full version of that speach, as that one sentence alone does somewhat lack context?

    follow the link at the top of the page… it will give you the whole report

    it wasn’t a speech, it was a comment in reaction to a criticism of the reasons given for going to war

    ie: “you shouldn’t have sent the army to Iraq”

    “We believe we were making the right decisions in the British national economic interest”

    not for national security, for breaking UN resolutions, for building WMD… for money.

    would you kill and die for britain’s economic interest?

    globalloon wrote:
    i know a man who had been in the TA 3 years before the war started who was conscripted to fight in Iraq… despite having a new born baby…

    a similar situation befell a former work colleague of mine….

    its unfortunate,

    but it is not conscription in the original sense of being forced against ones will to take part in military service (something which still happens in many other countries including some European states and is routine in Russia and the ex-USSR). AFAIK this has not happened in the UK in any of our lifetimes.

    these men made a concious decision to sign up to military service, and it is well known that if you join HM Reserve Forces you may be called up at any time and for any reason the Government of that day seems fit

    TBH most of these chaps join up for the macho element and a misconception that the TA merely is like a big scouts camp for grown men and women where you can legally play with guns and explosive devices at the weekends. It is not, and those who sign up can be and will be exposed to all the harsh realities of real war.

    General Lighting wrote:
    those who sign up can be and will be exposed to all the harsh realities of real war.

    or even an unreal war

    one based on our economy… :mad_curse

    while I wouldn’t sign up for any military anything, my sister is a medic in the army and served in Basra. She was treating men who were injured and killed (in some cases died from exhaustion due to lack of downtime or water) because they signed up to fight in defense of their country and our security…

    but i think the definition of ‘security’ has been stretched too far

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