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  • raj wrote:
    sorry but to me if they are born here, live here and work here they are by definition british

    Ditto

    i’m glad these guys were caught for 2 reasons

    1) so that they couldn’t muder 100’s of people
    2) if they had carried out the bombing, the reaction from UK and US governement would undoubtedly have involved invading more countries (ie. thousands of people murdered)

    globalloon wrote:
    2) if they had carried out the bombing, the reaction from UK and US governement would undoubtedly have involved invading more countries

    I think that might happen anyway :you_crazy

    globalloon wrote:
    i’m glad these guys were caught for 2 reasons

    1) so that they couldn’t muder 100’s of people
    2) if they had carried out the bombing, the reaction from UK and US governement would undoubtedly have involved invading more countries (ie. thousands of people murdered)

    and

    3) the war would come straight back home as Britains’ different ethnic groups fought it out in the streets

    If these people really are british and want to live here and be classed as british then why do this to the british??? Makes no sense

    raj wrote:
    .sorry but to me if they are born here, live here and work here they are by definition british

    Have to disagree – I mean if my parents moved to pakistan, then i was born but stayed there and worked there i would still be english, not pakistanian.

    Sound-Guy wrote:
    Have to disagree – I mean if my parents moved to pakistan, then i was born but stayed there and worked there i would still be english, not pakistanian.

    At the end of the day Sound-Guy we are all human beings, and we need to take a close look at the bigger picture as well as thinking about the probable retributions handed out to the ethnic minorities because of what happened today.:hopeless: :hopeless:

    Sound-Guy wrote:
    If these people really are british and want to live here and be classed as british then why do this to the british??? Makes no sense

    why do people commit other crimes of violence? why do “friends” or lovers sometimes turn on each other? why did a chap 10 miles up the road from me in a “picture postcard” village decide to kill his girlfriend a few days ago? People can and do brew up hate inside them for years without anyone knowing it; not even their closest relatives and friends.

    Also, planning on committing terrorism at an international airport and blowing up a passenger plane in the air is a crime against the whole World… on any aircraft there will be citizens of every nation..

    when people have become so alienated from any society and lost all hope in their lives they are capable of this – and it is dangerous to assume that just people from any one nation or culture can do this sort of stuff.

    Perhaps some communities are more recipient to “religious” indoctrination and committing group acts but other people commit these acts as individuals (mass killing by an individual is common in the Western countries; but its usually one person committing the act such as random shootings and suicide, nail bombs or even deliberately leaving a car on a level crossing)

    I think everybody can be pushed into committing acts of evil or violence if they are influenced in the wrong ways…

    doubtless had the plan been carried through there would be similar incidents in other countries in the world; and if countries like Pakistan were just harbouring terrorists; why are their security forces working with MI5 and cops to hand people over?

    I think its about time people realised that World War III has actually started (IMO it started on 2001-09-11); that “religions” and “races” are a smokescreen really…

    But it isn’t like the last two wars between nation states, It is a fight for the planets dwindling resources amongst shadowy groups who have bits of power and want to hold on to this power by any means; it will continue with more and more ferocity until either there is full on warin every country / nuclear missiles are deployed or people sort themselves out and try to reach a diplomatic solution.

    Which is it going to be?

    Personally working in the Travel business the heightened security is a good idea as keeps me in a job for a start.

    On a serious note though I would rather be safe than sorry and I do think maybe it was a bit overboard. My boss came into work today and told me that Glasgow Central Train Station was swarming with police. About 150 of them. One standing outside every shop and some on the platforms waiting for the trains to come in.

    I have to say it was a good thing in a way as after what happened in London they did nothing!

    My work was really busy though we had to deal with all the airline policies so we could work out if people would get a refund when they cancelled … contact all the companies that had people travelling today and tomorrow ( which was hundreds ) and organise all the changes and cancellations. Not what you need at 0830!!

    People think being in the travel business means we can do something more than they can and have more information …. to be honest with you we cant do anymore than you plus our info is firstly based by the news and what you hear is what we hear.

    I just wish people would stop having a go at us for not being able to anything… we are only doing our job !!

    shortylila wrote:
    My boss came into work today and told me that Glasgow Central Train Station was swarming with police. About 150 of them. One standing outside every shop and some on the platforms waiting for the trains to come in.

    according to the news :crazy_dru the police are looking for another 5 men

    could be that they had some reason to think they were headed for scotland

    hence all the activity

    General Lighting wrote:
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    3) the war would come straight back home as Britains’ different ethnic groups fought it out in the streets

    possibly

    although there were some touching moments in london in the immediate aftermath of the tube bombings, such as the memorial service in trafalgar square where people really got together as ‘londoners’, regardless of their ethnicity

    i’d like to hang on to that

    globalloon wrote:
    according to the news :crazy_dru the police are looking for another 5 men

    could be that they had some reason to think they were headed for scotland

    hence all the activity

    Shorty just said hmmm after i explained too that this was prob one of the easiest places to retreat to no border patrols or police to stop u entering scotland that they would have if they tried to go to France or Ireland

    globalloon wrote:
    possibly

    although there were some touching moments in london in the immediate aftermath of the tube bombings, such as the memorial service in trafalgar square where people really got together as ‘londoners’, regardless of their ethnicity

    i’d like to hang on to that

    fair enough if they were friends and relatives of the victims (and with 50 dead and hundreds injured that would account for a lot of the crowd) but I think 7/7 has definitely knocked race relations in the UK back to the early 1980s (could have been a lot worse though..)

    General Lighting wrote:
    fair enough if they were friends and relatives of the victims (and with 50 dead and hundreds injured that would account for a lot of the crowd) but I think 7/7 has definitely knocked race relations in the UK back to the early 1980s (could have been a lot worse though..)

    Yup i think you’re right… its like the same idiots that give paediatricians hell coz they think it say paedophiles..

    People totally assumed that any muslim was bad and that’s crap i lived in Saudi Arabia for 10yrs i’ve seen the total extremist side to islam.. but i also know that true muslims hate war and are infact total pacifists that alot of what these muslims that are following this so called Jihad are sayin is total nonsense sayin it says this an this in the Koran.. i had to read parts of the Koran at school for Islamic studies when i lived in saudi.. they misinterpret things an twist them..

    This in turn leads to narrow minded people misinterpreting what being a Muslim means.. its a lose lose situ in this country just now

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