Party Vibe

@know_hope 478037also funny at festivals, unsuspecting wreckheads get picked off by the bucketload… thats why i dont like the big dance festivals now… too much nonesense[/QUOTE wrote:

In England the dance music scene is being balkanised into big cities with high crime levels, festivals out in the middle of fucking nowhere in poor inland areas (as in coastal areas daytime seaside activities are less problematic) and/or with high ticket prices where you basically pay for cops to nanny and control you (also a certain amount now goes to the NHS and Ambulance service as large festivals tend to result in a number of hospital admissions for various reasons).

I already pay Council Tax for cops (to be fair they otherwise do a good job here and I accept drugs prohibition is because of politicians/laws, not police) but am not going to pay a premium for extra ones when my own personal use does not cause any problems, nor essentially subsidise other peoples stupidity. its also why I don’t go to big trance events in spite of liking the music.

I’m not sure if they have sniffer dogs in the Netherlands at their events. there is sometimes a uniformed Police presence but thats more for those who have had a few too many Heinekens and fight each other than stopping drugs.

It appears that they use a special “hit squad” of detectives against middle level dealers at events, but unless the pills are nasty shit like PMMA the penalties are low (a financial penalty per pill and a caution)

incidentally now the dogs, ion tracks etc and targeted enforcement against UK dance events have diminished their number the authorities are now going for the townie places and shutting them down too if the amount they bring in in taxes is less than the cost of dealing with the booze culture they produce.

in the UK the drugs laws overrule all EU human rights laws (not sure about other countries). There is a get out clause in the Human Rights act to that extent..

Also they probably didn’t have, nor need a warrant. nor did they need to do any “heavy stuff” what happens is that mums, when children are away from home out partying and they get a uniformed policeman at the door tend to let them in because they fear something bad has happened. Once they are in there any cop worth their badge and shield can gently talk most normal middle class mums into letting them search their sons room due to the “danger of drugs”. often many parents already have concerns over their kids’ drug use (especially stuff like being sketchy and argumentative on a comedown or neglecting other responsibilities) and support the action of the Police as their authority has already been ignored, and since the 1990s actual penalties for small posession or even low level dealing in the UK are lenient.

in the case of one of those “stubborn hippy mums” what “knows her and her familys rights” (and is probably herself known to the Police). the first bunch of cops might go away, but then lad is kept in the whole weekend until CID can get the warrant and the door is put off the hinges at 6am Monday by the territorial support squad. Cops know how to deal with stubborn people.

Dogs can’t decide whether to arrest you or not, they only provide intelligence (similar to the town CCTV scheme operator) its up to the police officers whether or not to act on the dogs indications.