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good to hear u, u did not over come ur limits, cuz when i was in the age of17, “excess” was my first name and second name was “to much”, so ialways was sleeping until the evening second January…..(lol)
But once again , on big events, i have drunk too much red wine yesterday and didn’t look the clock turning. so as usually , i came home 3 hours later then i promised my self, and FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK , I arrives 20 past midnight at home TO retrieve my lover (FUCK FUCK FUCK…)
:owned::good_evil:get_you:
Think I’m more known for not thinking at all sometimes rather than for not overthinking things lol.
@iliesse 582957 wrote:
good to hear u, u did not over come ur limits, cuz when i was in the age of17, “excess” was my first name and second name was “to much”, so ialways was sleeping until the evening second January…..(lol)
But once again , on big events, i have drunk too much red wine yesterday and didn’t look the clock turning. so as usually , i came home 3 hours later then i promised my self, and FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK , I arrives 20 past midnight at home TO retrieve my lover (FUCK FUCK FUCK…)
:owned::good_evil:get_you:
ça ç,ést une histoire; que je comprends bien mais a la méme fois c’est toute incroyable (ou peut-être en leçon en “l’heure français” 🙂 chapeau!
No I don’t think they think all that when purchasing the firearm, Tryp. All their thinking is the amendment which is self defense. Which means their subconscious mind is doing all the other processing. They have already decided to shoot someone if the right circumstances arise. Not saying this is correct but if you buy a gun to defend something you have already accepted the fact you will shoot someone to do so. If you buy a gun to shoot targets, there is no thought process saying you will shoot someone, therefore you will tend to find other ways to solve your problems other than shooting them. I think, but open for discussion.
Sadly ringing the police isn’t an option as they’re proibabably more likely to shoot you that the intruder lol
Hell Yeah, with a big bloody club
@isocortex 588216 wrote:
Hell Yeah, with a big bloody club
It’s really that simple, the dog (be it a Shepard or a collie) it no match for a well timed cricket bat, nor it is a match for manbearpig……..
mind you, not a living soul is a match for manbearpig, I should know, I once tried to capture him in the Sainsbury’s in Clapham common, was a blood bath, he’d broken in to said Sainsbury’s and started licking all the 1st and 2nd class stamps much to the horror and dismay of the old girl working the counter that day….I never forget the last words she ever said,’GET THAT FUCKIN MANBEARPIG ARSEHOLE OUTTA MY SHOP OR I’M GONNA KICK YOU IN THE NUTS’.
i’d beat the shit out of those lovely doggies and get my face plastered all over the internet by the PETA gang! nah I love dogs, got two, only got love for them.
I remember going to a festival last year with someone from this forum… He had a ridiculous amount of different drugs on him and we went in the festival the second it opened (we were waiting at the gate for 2 hours)… The sniffer dog went up to him briefly and he pooed himself, thought he was gonna get busted then we just kept walking and the police didn’t say anything, was quite funny actually.
You havre to understand in such a situation thats dogs nose is in overdrice. Thr aound of drugs and the number of drifferentr ways it’s telling him to go overhwlm its brain.
by the time a music event in the UK has got to the stage that the Police (or event security) are deploying drugs dogs its normally got to the point where its genuinely sketchy and unsafe, previous ones by the same promoter have filled up the local NHS hospitals and/or its particularly large, but at the same time the Council doesn’t want to just refuse the event license as it brings in some revenue to the area.
Two examples in this region are Latitude and V Festival – both of them attract numbers larger than the entire population of Ipswich, including a lot of young/new drivers from all across the UK and a relatively young crowd, and have a reputation for various sketchy incidents (in spite of Latitude being “posher” than V), although not more than would happen in an average weekend in Ipswich or Chelmsford.
They deploy loads of uniformed officers, road policing unit + CID often from Norfolk, Essex and Metpol so as not to leave these areas short of cops for the weekend plus drugs dogs. Its not intended to catch out small time casual personal users but those from the local area who are already established dealers and already known to the Police or those who try and subsidise the cost of attending the event by selling drugs. The same cops and dogs are deployed in these areas anyway every few weekends and sometimes at random times during the week, drug use isn’t confined to festivals.
If you aren’t dealing at a festival you should probably let someone else smuggle the drugs past the sniffer dogs for you.
sad so many people in end in medical care from over doing it, I remember a kid just collapsing and falling down drunk in front of me in line to get into the music area (like alcohol posioning needs medical attention drunk, idk what else he might of had) couldn’t of been over 16 and his friend was like “quit playing (but was obviously concerned)” and then another time at the same festival i was hanging out at my campsite and medics came through trying to find someone and asked if any of us needed assistance. i just said “nah we’re good” and they dove deeped into tent city trying to find the person in need.
idk how many festivals allow harm reduction groups at festivals but it sure can help.
another good point about young people driving, I’ve had to drive through the middle of the night after a festival but wasn’t on hard drugs so it was fine but every now and again you hear about someone running someone over or what have you trying to drive off their face, sad shit really.
The UK has some unique safety problems at festivals as it has a lower age for driving; unaffordable or non existent public transport in areas where events often get licensed; a similar car dependency culture to the USA (in spite of its much smaller size) – and high fuel costs which encourage more people to deal as a way of subsidising the costs of the event.
That said, every European festival since the late 1990s ) allows harm reduction groups; there is probably some EU recommendation or legislation permitting or encouraging this.
Safety rules on European festivals are now some of the strictest in the world following unpleasant and fatal stampedes; the most recent incident (Loveparade DE 2010) was caused as an unintended result of zero tolerance policies against drugs in NL causing Dutch promoters to stop holding as many in their country. It coincided nd social conservatives in DE balkanising the event to some random small town on the outskirts of Germany; the promoters tried to fit two countries worth of party people into the same space at once with tragic consequences.
If a promoter fucks up in any the authorities will come and nick them even if its years later and big unlicensed events in can attract similar attention. Organisers can get sued as well as incur criminal charges. This on top of the financial risks of holding such events is one reason why the USA has had an “EDM boom” – it once seemed possible to “buy the Council” in some areas and incur less regulation although I think even that has still resulted in court cases and all sorts of extra angst.
in Europe, faith groups still have a big say in what does and doesn’t get licensed even in supposedly secular nations – they may well have been the first festival organisers! The current laws (quite rightly) can’t force someone to put a beer tent at an Islamic festival nor make the cops stop a techno set for prayers of any kind (unless the crowd wanted to do this)- although in some bits of Germany any dancing on Sundays remains verboten and all the religions (even those who have their day of rest at a different time) help enforce it!
in my region (I live in the a fairly affluent, multicultural county town of Ipswich) there aren’t many multi day events (near impossible to get licenses for them) but loads of daytime music events with varying amounts of faith group involvement. To avoid angst/paranoia about extremism and to keep the younger people happy all the organisers work together with the community radio station to promote the events. not like the hedonism of 1980s/90s Britain but not as as bad as it might come acros… faith groups in Europe either openly run or quietly provide funding and support to harm reduction charities and festival welfare services and have done so since the 1960s/70s….
Not unrelated to this, you can get generic EDM and indie music which is compatible with all religions and just this week one of the UK’s most senior Muslim Police Officers (a Commander at Scotland ard openly hinted to Muslim parents that partying and even drugs and booze were less harmful than being over strict on their kids and the teens going to foreign wars..)
@glittertrauma 70353 wrote:
Does anyone have experience of sniffer dogs or knowledge of how to beat them? How much can they actually smell or detect? Are there ways to prevent them from being effective? Under what circumstances are they ineffective (I’ve heard rain can be a problem for them)? What can they smell and what can’t they? Can they only be trained to detect individual substances or can they detect a range of things? Is there a difference between illegal drugs / narcotics and contraband or explosives? What about hiding what ever you’re trying to hide internally either in your privates or swallowed?
Any and all advice, stories and opinions would be welcomed…
Peace out! XxX
It’s actually not as complicated as it may seem. When drug dogs get involved, your automatic thought is “OMG I’m going to go to jail.” Not true. The truth is, and I heard this from a retired cop, the K9 units are really just trained dogs. They can certainly smell whatever you may be hiding but as far as them finding it on their own? Nope. If you have seen an episode of COPS where they pull out the drug dogs, if you pay close attention, you will see that the cop is actually influencing the dog by basic training commands. For example, saw a COPS episode and while they filmed the dog walking around the car, the officer tapped the driver’s seat with his hand and said, “Good boy!” What did the dog do? Jumped into the car and sniffed around. The dogs are a mere distraction – the cops are the ones who find it.
I’ve heard every method of hiding your shit in the book and here’s the best policy: don’t do something to get you pulled over in the first place/give a cop or officer the impression that you’re holding. If you do get pulled and have illegal substances in the vehicle, just act normal. Tell the officer you’re reaching into your glove box to get your papers – always do this. Cops are quick to react and if you jump at your glove box they may feel threatened and think that you have a gun as well. Easier said than done for some people. Drive cautiously, don’t disobey traffic laws, don’t speed – and you’re good to go. **I have never been pulled but I know how this process works. The immediate reaction you will have is to stash the shit before the cop gets to your window…BAD IDEA. Chances are he/she saw you bend over in the car to hide them and they don’t usually find that amusing.
I have heard that the higher up the substance is, the less likely the dog will pay attention or pick it up. Dogs tend to keep their noses buried in the ground or lower levels of your vehicle. Also, do not allow the cop who pulled you to search your vehicle without a warrant. This is a basic right and it’s the law – if you give the cop permission to look around your car, you WILL be caught. Stalling the officer long enough will eventually make them frustrated for having to wait on a warrant or having to call a K9 unit to investigate. They’re humans too and they, like everyone else for the most part, are impatient. They won’t stick around long enough to wait for that crap. Chances are, they don’t really care about busting you for that kinda crap either so just relax and it will smooth over.
Myth busters found it plausible to divert a guard dog with a steak and urine from a bitch in heat, so why not a sniffer dog? Of coarse, this still begs the question of diverting the handler, but that didn’t seem to be the focus of the question so yeah…
exactly – think of it this way: all you have to do is beat the cops. the dogs are just that: dogs. they aren’t human, they can’t point to a baggie and say it’s full of drugs. all they do is respond to human behavior and if taught the correct way, they will still only listen to their handler. i too have heard of deer urine as a distraction but the smell would be obvious i think. the idea is to completely interact with the handler as much as possible to keep him/her distracted from giving the dog commands. sniffers will only respond to handler’s commands. K9 units are a joke, not to say that i don’t respect the dogs. they live off of working for their handler and i admire that. the simple answer is still to fuck with the cop. the dog won’t pay attention if the handler won’t.
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