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August 23, 2006 at 3:04 pm

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Mustard

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globalloon wrote:

acid is odourless, so whatever the dogs smelt on that guy with acid, it was something else he had been in contact with

Fair play, I was quite impressed at the time.. but it was in a tin, so I guess that could well have had some green in it recently or some shit.. Still dogs are pretty good, scared me enough never to carry anything on the underground again.. Buses/taxies all the way, when I have to trek round the city..
August 23, 2006 at 3:26 pm

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the electronic dogs certainly exist; they are some sort of portable mass spectrometer which means they can detect miniscule quantities of the substance and very accurately (anyone with greater knowledge is welcome to elaborate here!)

TVP and other forces have used them (they get free trials from the companies which make the gadgets); a couple of bobbies go round each popular night time venue and scan people – those who come up positive are only allowed entry to the venue on condition of being searched by the cops.

I think “ion-track” is one proprietary name of these devices.

they are not cheap (maybe as much as about 20 grand each!), but it is competitive with the full cost of training and keeping a standard dog – particularly as a machine never gets tired, nor needs feeding or walkies!

incidentally a lot of moosers are caught out by the passive dog; this is often sent through the venue without warning and loved-up gurners have been known to make a fuss of it and pat it!
March 3, 2008 at 6:26 am

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March 3, 2008 at 11:20 am

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miss bassets wrote:

wots the verdict on bringin a sample or two bk from the dam?

post it….eth worst that can happen is that your package gets intercepted and you get a note telling you the police have intercepted a package.
March 3, 2008 at 1:41 pm

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globalloon wrote:

acid is odourless, so whatever the dogs smelt on that guy with acid, it was something else he had been in contact with

is it not just odorless in humans tho? as dogs have a better sence of smell than us by a long shot?
March 3, 2008 at 5:43 pm

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DaftFader wrote:

is it not just odorless in humans tho? as dogs have a better sence of smell than us by a long shot?

I guess dogs must have considering that they are using dogs to find buried kids at the moment..
March 5, 2008 at 7:17 am

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Joker78

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glittertrauma wrote:

Does anyone have experience of sniffer dogs or knowledge of how to beat them? How much can they actually smell or detect? Are there ways to prevent them from being effective? Under what circumstances are they ineffective (I’ve heard rain can be a problem for them)? What can they smell and what can’t they? Can they only be trained to detect individual substances or can they detect a range of things? Is there a difference between illegal drugs / narcotics and contraband or explosives? What about hiding what ever you’re trying to hide internally either in your privates or swallowed?

Any and all advice, stories and opinions would be welcomed…

Peace out! XxX

I went on a skiing holiday in Italy a few years ago. I took a bit of hash and smoked it on the chair lifts going up the mountain. Often I would need to nip it out and pop the unsmoked half joint in my wallet.

At he end of the stay I left Italy via Turin airport. At passport control the dog there was all over me. Two guys took me in a side room asked me a few questions and then let me get on my way. BTW, I had smoked all the hash before arriving at the airport so I was carrying.

Those doggies know a thing or two about illicit substances.
March 5, 2008 at 7:21 am

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Joker78

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miss bassets wrote:

wots the verdict on bringin a sample or two bk from the dam?

Be careful, kinder egg up the arse might do it.
March 5, 2008 at 7:29 am

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globalloon wrote:

stupid idea

Stupid idea? Maybe, it’s a matter of personal choice. Cost/benefit analysis.

globalloon wrote:

what’s the point? you can get everything you can get in the dam here anyway

The hash in the Dam is way better than in UK. Give me some Royal Dutch Hash over any UK hash anytime. Well better.

In the Dam you can learn what good hash really is. In the UK you could smoke hash for 10 years and know nothing about good hash.

I did bring back 10 x tabs of 2-CT-2 from the Dam a few years back. No problems encountered. Sadly it is illegal in the Dam now.
March 7, 2008 at 1:45 am

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watch barry coopers never get busted video theres a sniffer dogs section itll open your eyes wide to how good these dogs are .

on the video a dog sniffs out weed in a plastic tube in the petrol tank of a car

nothing you can do will mask or hide the smell from these dogs because there senses work differently than ours .

the video uses a pan of stew to illustrate how the dog finds the drugs

because a dogs sense of smell is different than ours

we smell a pan of stew !!!!

but the dog is different he smells all the ingredients separately so if weed is part of the ingredients he smells it and alerts the policeman

no point putting drugs where the sun dont shine either dogs can smell those to ………….

party on raaa
December 16, 2008 at 9:48 am

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I heard apparently and i say “apparently” there’s a hand held speaker that scares or makes the dogs uncomfortable when the dog is in about a 10m radius. i know its only 10m’s but when your in a massive line at a festival and its crowded you could easily stay clear of the dog without raising substitution towards yourself (bad luck for the guy next to the dog if it freaks out, but at least it gives you time to get in and have a good one). its originally use is for people who go for walks and when they are apportioned by a dog that they feel threaten by. They use the speaker that makes a beep at a really high pitch which dogs hate! humans cant or barely hear it, the dog runs away or will curl up in a ball.

I’m not sure if this is a obvious method or not but post what you reckon. :love:
December 16, 2008 at 12:30 pm

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Norad;250801 wrote:

I heard apparently and i say “apparently” there’s a hand held speaker that scares or makes the dogs uncomfortable when the dog is in about a 10m radius. i know its only 10m’s but when your in a massive line at a festival and its crowded you could easily stay clear of the dog without raising substitution towards yourself (bad luck for the guy next to the dog if it freaks out, but at least it gives you time to get in and have a good one). its originally use is for people who go for walks and when they are apportioned by a dog that they feel threaten by. They use the speaker that makes a beep at a really high pitch which dogs hate! humans cant or barely hear it, the dog runs away or will curl up in a ball.

I’m not sure if this is a obvious method or not but post what you reckon. :love:

get one and link it up to a rig at a party .. no more dog police munching up poor ravers :weee:
December 16, 2008 at 1:17 pm

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i think you could actually get done for assaulting a police officer if they spotted you doing this. Im sure you could do it on the sly without them noticing tho. Just make sure they dont realise its you that blowing the whistke and making thier dog go loopy! :laugh_at:
*edit ooo check me out all in orange! 😉
December 16, 2008 at 1:27 pm

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djprocess;250821 wrote:

i think you could actually get done for assaulting a police officer if they spotted you doing this. Im sure you could do it on the sly without them noticing tho. Just make sure they dont realise its you that blowing the whistke and making thier dog go loopy! :laugh_at:
*edit ooo check me out all in orange! 😉

yeah you could probably get fucked by the police if they found out you were doing something like that … and yeah i saw you in orange 😥 …
December 16, 2008 at 6:02 pm

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General Lighting

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djprocess;250821 wrote:

i think you could actually get done for assaulting a police officer if they spotted you doing this. Im sure you could do it on the sly without them noticing tho. Just make sure they dont realise its you that blowing the whistke and making thier dog go loopy! :laugh_at:

would be classed as obstruction of an officer in their duties, and a potential animal cruelty offence – even though the dog scarer is legal – the animal cruelty laws in Britain have recently been updated and repeated use of it against a non agressive dog could easily be classed as causing uneccesary suffering..

And its usually quite a cute dog rather than a fierce one you would be scaring, so you’d end up with even hippys/yoghurt weavers/animal rights types refusing to support your actions even if they take drugs..

anyway these days more and more constabularies are using ion tracks, they don’t get tired and theres no need for walkies or pooper scoopers – nor do machines decide to rebel and eat the drugs! Over the years a fair few police dogs have ended up in the vets this way, if they survive certainly end up “losing their badge and shield” – they are usually rehomed to people like old grannies but its still £20,000 + of public money down the drain when this happens)
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