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  • Initially got the correct answer (by thinking in terms of how a computer would evaluate this if there were no rounding errors introduced by the recurring decimal) – only to end up selecting the wrong answer due to confusion from flawed maths teaching from junior school onwards (it also confuses many Americans but unsurprisingly not SE Asians and mainland Europeans). Another factor may be the 1990s decline in computer science teaching worldwide….

    I got it wrong, and I don’t quite understand how I got it wrong but I was sure it was -1 after dropping down a rabbit hole.. 3 divided by 1/3rd was obviously 9 but I have no idea how I got -1 in my head.

    in the UK we often get taught BODMAS ( brackets, orders [1], {division, multiplication}, {addition, subtraction} )

    [1] exponents/powers/square roots

    2^8 = 256
    √4 = 2 (I think this can also be shown using exponents but I’ve forgotten how)

    I deliberately put those other brackets as well as the square brackets for the footnote, a long running internet convention in there as the way this is traditionally taught by many teachers introduces confusion.

    We both got the division bit correct but overlooked that precedence of division and multiplication and then addition and subtraction is equal for those operations, and they should go from left to right).

    Easy to get confused, mistakenly carry out the addition first and then evaluate 9-(9+1) = -1 when it should be (9-9)+1 = 1

    This (as it is easy to forget) should be made far clearer when teaching people maths – even the BBC article perpetuates the confusion..

    BBC – Standard Grade Bitesize Maths I – Order of operation : Revision

    No I never got confused there and that is the system I learned, I’m gonna have to assume it was dirt in my screen that made it look like a – sign was inn there and that’s the only way I can explain how I got a negative number.

    curious though so many young Japanese would get this incorrect – I unearthed the source article where the journos and a University professor expressed considerable angst at this decline in maths skills. As my language skills do not stretch to Japanese I had to put it through Google Translate and unearthed this in the translation both amusing but worrying at the same time as if you want to become an engineer and make stuff that works well and safely it is advisable to pay attention to your arithmetic..

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      @tryptameanie 983797 wrote:

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      pleaz NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, ur gonna make me addict on a math prob, i can pass days UNTIL I FIND OR NOT:sick::oh_god::laugh_at:


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          @tryptameanie 983801 wrote:

          No I never got confused there and that is the system I learned, I’m gonna have to assume it was dirt in my screen that made it look like a – sign was inn there and that’s the only way I can explain how I got a negative number.

          +1, for having -1, it should be 9-(…….)


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            @tryptameanie 983797 wrote:

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            yes there is something strange. I TOLD U, U GONNA MAKE ME CRAZY IF I SEARCH, WHAT IS THE REASON?????

            FUCK 3 HOOURS LATER I JUST SEE AM RIGHT BY SEING THERE IS THE SOLUTION ON VIDEO, BUT MY PROBLEM WAS TOTALLY AN OTHER PROBLEM, I COULDNT UNDERSTAD WHY :

            9-9+1=1 AND IF I MAKE 9- 9+1 = 9 – 10 = -1 :you_crazy:hopeless:

            as GL says , the order the operations are performed m,atter so we wpuld cponsider the equation 9- (3 divided by 1/3rd) +1

            The 4 divided by 1/3rd is the 1st part that is solved following mathematics formality give 9-9+1=1.

            I madw a ridiculously stupid mistake by trying to instantaneously solve without thinking properly.

            @iliesse 983806 wrote:

            yes there is something strange. I TOLD U, U GONNA MAKE ME CRAZY IF I SEARCH, WHAT IS THE REASON?????

            FUCK 3 HOOURS LATER I JUST SEE AM RIGHT BY SEING THERE IS THE SOLUTION ON VIDEO, BUT MY PROBLEM WAS TOTALLY AN OTHER PROBLEM, I COULDNT UNDERSTAD WHY :

            9-9+1=1 AND IF I MAKE 9- 9+1 = 9 – 10 = -1 :you_crazy:hopeless:

            As GL said, BODMAS is taught at schools but extended it would have P at the start as powers would come 1st.

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