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      The Sunday times march 04,2007

      CHILDREN aged 11 to 16 are to have their fingerprints taken and stored on a secret database, internal Whitehall documents reveal.

      The leaked Home Office plans show that the mass fingerprinting will start in 2010, with a batch of 295,000 youngsters who apply for passports.

      The Home Office expects 545,000 children aged 11 and over to have their prints taken in 2011, with the figure settling at an annual 495,000 from 2014. Their fingerprints will be held on a database also used by the Immigration and Nationality Directorate to store the fingerprints of hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers.

      The plans are outlined in a series of “restricted” documents circulating among officials in the Identity and Passport Service. They form part of the programme for the introduction of new biometric passports and ID cards.

      Rest of the article here
      http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1466943.ece

      I think this is scary..

      What’s next ??

      DNA samples of new born babies (if they don’t do that already) :hopeless:

      :scared:

      in Suffolk they already do this, to register childrens’ school library cards (I suspect this is a covert test bed for the wider scheme)

      http://www.eveningstar.co.uk/search/story.aspx?brand=EADOnline&category=News&itemid=IPED26%20Feb%202007%2000:26:47:813&tBrand=EADOnline&tCategory=search

      1984 :crazy:

      where the fuck are the left-wing activist groups in britain? and why isn’t shit like this gettin full media attention… the only way i hear about it is through PV, surely there are a lotta people in england that would care about this?

      or have we had the idea that the “masses can make a difference” beaten out of us?

      fuck it, it’s sickenin.

      fingerprinting children? what the hell? makes me feel so angry and sad that this is happening and planning to go ahead further more. :head_bang :mad_curse

      It’s a bag of arse.

      boothy wrote:
      1984 :crazy:

      where the fuck are the left-wing activist groups in britain? and why isn’t shit like this gettin full media attention… the only way i hear about it is through PV, surely there are a lotta people in england that would care about this?

      or have we had the idea that the “masses can make a difference” beaten out of us?

      fuck it, it’s sickenin.

      to be fair there are still quite a few progressive/activist groups around but you need to do a bit of Google searching and an amount of reading, plus with the demise of infoshops/”alternative” bookshops they are not as prominent in “normal society” as they once were.

      One perennial problem is that progressives movement often fragments themselves into often conflicting/competing single issue movements -=precisely because they believe in freedom from rigid hierarchies

      OTOH conservative movements which accept control and authority tend to have organisational structures that fit in better with the current state of society.

      Plus the Internet has created a whole babble of shouting activist voices from all corners of the political spectrum and sometimes the noise drowns out the real info..

      On a brighter note a lot of the original aims of 70s/80s activists such as environmentalism and enhanced freedom of speech/expression are slowly filtering through into mainstream society rather than being viewed as “radical” – although progress is of course slower than perhaps it should be, and there is a danger of a conservative backlash (which we are now seeing).

      another fuckin craze idea by 2050 well be livin in a big brother nation WOTS THE WORLD CUMIN TO!!!!!!!!!!! REBEL ,STANDUP 4 WOT U BELIEV IN AND WHO THE FUCK CAN TRUST A GUVERNMENT THAT LEAD US TO WAR ON LIES ……………..FEW DEEEP BREATHS PARGE GLAD I GOT THAT OFF MY CHEST LUV U ALL:group_hug

      It’s well dodgy that they want to do that, don’t they already keep enough tabs on us? And with Oyster cards as well???? Whatever happened to privacy?

      this country gets worse and worse in 10 yrs you will be able to do nothing without them knowing yr whereabouts and all yr life’s history

      That is one of the reasons I dont spend much time in the UK and havnt been back in 2 years

      HARTY wrote:
      That is one of the reasons I dont spend much time in the UK and havnt been back in 2 years

      I see what you mean but its ironic that you are now in the part of the world where surveillance of citizens is sometimes more effective and accepted by wider society..

      OK maybe not so much in the more rural/jungle bits you have mentioned but certainly in urban Malaysia and particularly Singapore the government databases and monitoring actually work and deliver results.

      No one really seems to complain about the amount of control as “they increase security” and the standard of living is actually fairly high for those who conform.

      Youth lifestyles are heavily locked down compared to the West, and national service has been reintroduced…

      ID cards are compulsory….

      A recent purge on illegal immigrants resulted in the Reki (the special constabulary) executing five without warrant (their bodies were found in a local lake)

      A young couple caught dealing ketamine were both hanged, and their baby taken into care (it will probably be given (or even sold, with the proceeds being kept by the authorities) to a rich middle aged couple)

      I suspect that if you feel more “free” in Malaysia its the change of surroundings and because the average person in SE Asia is friendly and hospitable to visitors, plus a lot of younger people look up to the British fashions and way of life – but SE Asia is full of governments that have sacrificed many aspects of the Western concept of individual freedom for economic progress – and it has paid off in the market.

      It may also be harder to put CCTV in the kampungs but give it about 5 years and it will be there (particularly those in border areas); they already have mobiles so the network infrastructure is being developed..

      I think many middle englanders are actually quite envious of SE Asian countries and how they are run..

      Ah everyone is watching us! you all must have seen this old website?

      http://www.boycottgillette.com/ ????

      :you_crazy

      Is it true or people just being paraniod?

      Do they use RFID to track products? Yes usually inside a supermarket to try and reduce shoplifting

      There is a supermarket owners dream where every item has an RFID and just walking through the detector can work out how much you owe them [they want this because they could further automate and depersonalise the shopping process]

      I am not 100% sure but I think the RFIDs have a limited range and so it would be pretty hard to use them to snoop on in your own home [if any one knows better please say so]

      Do gillete razors have the ability to take pictures of us while we are shaving? hope not cos they are getting a very odd view of us :laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at:and even worse of our partners when they borrow our razors :crazy:

      Raj wrote:
      Do gillete razors have the ability to take pictures of us while we are shaving? hope not cos they are getting a very odd view of us :laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at:and even worse of our partners when they borrow our razors :crazy:

      Very bizzare i thought! i know how disgusting the pictures i have taken where you can see right up my snooter look! :weee:

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