@cozmic 975697 wrote:
‘Ching’ is/was shite mate. My mate used to buy it all the time and even got it crystal form once, I just can’t be fu cked with legal highs TBH.
TBH its contents would have changed at least once (due to TCDOs etc) although it was always cheaper and more reliable to purchase the source chemicals. All of the now controlled ones were effective as functional stims but IMO not quite as strong as good dexamfetamine and had various side effects that were annoying with chronic (medium to long term use) and particularly unpleasant or even life threatening in overdose.
To be fair the ACMD don’t just put TCDOs on stuff because its there unlike 1980s when stuff was made class A by the Home Office without even having been regularly seen in England.
In modern times they do seem to only act when there have been a few bodies on the slab or all containing the same substance and/or notifications that multiple Emergency Department admissions and other health porblems have occured in areas where this substance is popular.
Bear in mind in this country the NHS can often only do proper research on dead bodies – in the ED the priority is on treating a patient and keeping them alive rather than forensic evidence gathering; if they do get any further info its often only after the NHS, Police and Trading Standards (or their equivalents in foreign lands) have pieced together “big data” about the spread of the substance use and when they’ve gone to all the bother of that they have often collected all sorts of data on poly drugs use + alcohol which is then used to lock down entire towns/nightlife areas.
The last few ACMD reports I’ve read have all quoted not just British incidents but elsewhere in the EU and even further afield as justifications for making the substance temp controlled..
