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im just wondering if anyone has smoked this i neva really seen it before but a shit load has been around here recently n from what ive heard its being cooked up just down the road does any one know whats used in it?
nah but i’ve had meth ampetamine liquid years ago from a chemist raid.
Its prime ingredient is Psedoephedrine. This is then mixed (albeit by a very dangerous and possibly explosive process) with either red phosphorous (known at the red P method) or with lithium batteries (known as the Nazi method because it apparently was first made during WW2 by the Germans).
These two methods have been available on the internet for sometime and can be found on other well known drug sites. Remember, if you go looking for this information there is a lot of dis-information designed to blow yourself up or to make a bunch of goo that is going to do naff-all.
Other ingredients can include, silver foil, hydrogen peroxide, road cleaner, ether, red phosphorous, iodine, lithium strips from the batteries and other chemicals easily obtained from a hardware store. (WARNING: THIS IS NOT A LIST OF ACTUAL INGREDIENTS. IF YOU USE THIS LIST IT WILL NOT WORK. THESE ARE JUST SOME INGREDIENTS USED FROM BOTH WELL KNOWN PROCESSES).
It can be eaten, smoked, injected and snorted (but I don’t recomment that one TBH). Its melting temperature is low compared to other drugs. Its smoked often using a lightbulb as a pipe and these can be made in just a few minutes. Its not worth using a can as if your smoking crack because the rock will turn to a liquid and the vapours have to be inhaled. I’m not sure on how long the effects lasts for or what this drug feels like. I am pretty sure that some crack has been either cut or has something similar, but I can’t be certain. I can only assume its a long speedy drug. If you take psedoephedrine (found in cold medicines) you will find you can breath easily through your nostrils and lungs, I think therefore add a rush, a speedy effect and this is what is possibly feels like.
Meth labs are notoriously dangerous because of the toxic waste that is often dumped after making the batch. Cooks just don’t worry when it comes to making meth, its such a profitable drug that anyone with hardly any chemistry knowledge can make it. Police are trained to call the enviromental health teams to shut down a meth lab and clean up. This will mean the area being cordonned to protect the public from possible harm.
However that said, about 90% of meth labs are found when they literally blow up. One of the processes involves mixing an acid into water (or water into an acid, I can’t remember which one produced the heat and NO THEY ARE NOT THE SAME) – this produced a lot of heat and when acids are involved Hydrogen gas is produced. The hydrogen can build up and literally explode by either a spark, a cigarette or by the cook just not having the knowledge on which part of the processes to be careful. So water is definitely something that you do not want in the process.
There is only one good thing about methamphetamine and thats the fact that police in other countries where meth is rife all the sources are put towards capturing meth cooks and so cooks of other, “real” drugs are now much safer than ever before.
I hope this background information helps somewhat.
Jesus e_babes thats quite a nasty mix of ingredients innit! Fuck doing that shite! :yakk:
These two methods have been available on the internet for sometime and can be found on other well known drug sites. Remember, if you go looking for this information there is a lot of dis-information designed to blow yourself up or to make a bunch of goo that is going to do naff-all.
Other ingredients can include, silver foil, hydrogen peroxide, road cleaner, ether, red phosphorous, iodine, lithium strips from the batteries and other chemicals easily obtained from a hardware store. (WARNING: THIS IS NOT A LIST OF ACTUAL INGREDIENTS. IF YOU USE THIS LIST IT WILL NOT WORK. THESE ARE JUST SOME INGREDIENTS USED FROM BOTH WELL KNOWN PROCESSES).
It can be eaten, smoked, injected and snorted (but I don’t recomment that one TBH). Its melting temperature is low compared to other drugs. Its smoked often using a lightbulb as a pipe and these can be made in just a few minutes. Its not worth using a can as if your smoking crack because the rock will turn to a liquid and the vapours have to be inhaled. I’m not sure on how long the effects lasts for or what this drug feels like. I am pretty sure that some crack has been either cut or has something similar, but I can’t be certain. I can only assume its a long speedy drug. If you take psedoephedrine (found in cold medicines) you will find you can breath easily through your nostrils and lungs, I think therefore add a rush, a speedy effect and this is what is possibly feels like.
Meth labs are notoriously dangerous because of the toxic waste that is often dumped after making the batch. Cooks just don’t worry when it comes to making meth, its such a profitable drug that anyone with hardly any chemistry knowledge can make it. Police are trained to call the enviromental health teams to shut down a meth lab and clean up. This will mean the area being cordonned to protect the public from possible harm.
However that said, about 90% of meth labs are found when they literally blow up. One of the processes involves mixing an acid into water (or water into an acid, I can’t remember which one produced the heat and NO THEY ARE NOT THE SAME) – this produced a lot of heat and when acids are involved Hydrogen gas is produced. The hydrogen can build up and literally explode by either a spark, a cigarette or by the cook just not having the knowledge on which part of the processes to be careful. So water is definitely something that you do not want in the process.
There is only one good thing about methamphetamine and thats the fact that police in other countries where meth is rife all the sources are put towards capturing meth cooks and so cooks of other, “real” drugs are now much safer than ever before.
I hope this background information helps somewhat.
and i suppose the same goes for licking frogs to get a DMT trip……….
:laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at:
I would have probably tried it by now, but it seems too dodgey! A while back a friend got a load to shift n after doing it wouldn’t sell it to anyone coz he thought it was too fucked up. You just gotta look at the problems they have in places like america where it’s popular! (that image of the before and after meth head springs to mind)
I wondered that, if it’s so easy to make. Why is it much more popular in America than it is here?
In my opinon I think it was the availability of psedoephedrine found in cold medicines that made it popular and other chemicals that you could find in hardware stores. Some over the counter medicines had high concentrations of the stuff. Now its monitored and if you go into say Walmart and buy 4 or so cold and flu items you may be refused service. Its either that or the culture difference. It seems that the UK has been well warned of the drug – TBH, I have yet to find someone willing to sell me any or even tell me they have tried it and describe it to me directly. (any offers?)
However, in other countries like South Africa, you could buy the stuff by the drum. Instead of meth they call it TIC. In Thailand they call it YABBA. One of my mates was over there and decided to get addicted to the stuff and has never come back since.
if it can be called nazi crank then i highly doubt tis going to be good, id still try it though if it was ever offerd
Hi all, first post on here so first up just like to say g’day and it’s great to be on here, been having a lurk and some really interesting discussion going on.
Before I share some of my Crystal Meth experiences I will just say that after several years of recreational drug use, E, Pot, Acid, Speed etc.. I was introduced to Crystal meth and in the space of a couple of years of use I ended up hopelessly addicted, it almost ended my life but looking back I have no regrets, met some great geezas and geezettes and had a blast. Just got a little carried away.
When you see a list of the possible items used in manufacture in the small scale operations it does look a little dodgy, but something to bear in mind is that the end product is not a mixture of those components. Through the wonders of chemistry an entirely new compound is manufactured and if done correctly with a good focus on the washing aspects of the proccess all the undesirable bits including the red phosphorus are removed and or converted during the process. No doubt there is a heap of shit out there though so be aware of that I guess and look for quality.
I found the effects of Ice vary greatly depending on the method of ingestion, initially I crushed the Crystal Meth up (under a flattened out bank note, with a credit card is the best method) and snorted it. This method produces an intense rush and you will be charging all night, great for dancing and you soon forget how much it hurts, almost like inhaling glass lol
The latter part of my Meth journey had me smoking it in a glass pipe, this is by far the best way to go, the rush is far less intense and a great deal more euphoric. Huge electric chills in your lower body and a massive body buzz, the actual smoking proccess is a lot of fun, watching it melt and vaporise in the pipe along with the subsequent re-crystallisation is hypnotic and it is very moreish when smoked. You find yourself wanting to smoke more and more even though you do not get any higher.
Never did meth intravenously however my older brother was a real junkie and although slamming it is the most intense way to experience it seeing the ravages on him I never felt like trying it.
Pound for pound Ice makes Cocaine look like icing sugar, it lasts longer is better value for money and in my opinion makes you feel a lot better.
Be careful if you do decide to give it a crack, although Crystal Meth feels like a miracle drug at first: It banishes fatigue and illness and you literally feel like a million bucks it can rapidly go from a bit of fun on the weekend to a 7 day a week habit like it did with me.
By the time I quit meth I had to smoke it to do anything, even just to get out of bed, you become a slave to the chemical. It can damage your teeth and gums (meth mouth) but I was pretty lucky and escaped pretty much unscathed.
It’s a lot of fun but like all thing use it in moderation and keep it on the weekends only, no matter how tired you are on Monday morning after a massive weekend on the gear don’t have a little toke/line just to get through work no matter how great an idea it seems at the time, thats how the road to disaster starts.
Take care and enjoy, life is there to savour in all it’s glory I reckon. Grab it with Both hands and hopefully see you all on the dance floor!! :group_hug
Kiwilad,
Thanks mate for sharing your experience with us about Ice/Crank. It’s something we don’t have much info about and I for one am glad you spoke up and told us.
Welcome to the board by the way, we hope you enjoy your stay and look forward to hearing all about drugs, parties whatever down in New Zealand.
I’m piecing all these snippits of information in my mind and it seems bad news to me. But I can’t help but be curious and want to try it just the once. But I am afraid. Afraid that my old addiction habits will return and then I’d end up a meth junkie, just not the meth I am on now.
No worries at all e-babes, it’s certainly one of the drugs I would label with “should be tried at least once” but with one of discalimers on the bottom saying “handle with caution”. I made it my business like I do with most things I do, be it drugs or otherwise to learn all I could before having a crack. But I still fell into the trap and got sucked in by Crystal.
Having said that though mate I wouldn’t let that put you off if you want to give it a crack, if you like meth in general you will love it, just be careful with it like I’m sure you would anyhow given you are aware of your addictive nature as I am 😉
I know plenty of folks who got into it before, during or after my time in that scene and they never sucumbed like I did so it’s certainly viable to use in moderation and enjoy the ride :weee:
Some mates came across it a while back – the jury is still out as to whether they would do it again knowingly [it was sold to them as base]
They were up for days and still going strong on a small amount :crazy: but some of them felt well rough later.
cheers for that Kiwilad, really interesting –
I’ve been asking about here but doesnt seem to be around in this neck of the woods
Have read ‘leaving dirty jersey’ and a sort of diary of a meth addict
but like any addiction – pretty scarey stuff…
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