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Hi All,
Just my take on things here but i think they just want to sell off and contract all government run organisations ..1 it wont cost them …2 when it all goes wrong they blame the company and put another company in charge . And three and what this is all driven by !!! , it makes money for big companies and share holders . We suffer and get a shit service and the rich get richer and can afford to pay private for a better service . Welcome to master and servant ……land lords and tennats and not before long work houses ….sound familiar !!!!! …..check your history !!!!

regards
Mungo

NHS is fucked because of the pharmaceutical companies and the companies that supply everything that is used daily in the hospitals.
Mates are nurses and they have to be super careful about opening bandages and shit cos they cost the earth.
Simple things like tubes and stuff. That tiny little vial of something just cost gazzilions even though maybe only half was used and the rest has to be thrown away.

Also they are buying in waaaaaaaaaaay expensive food as it has to be through the supplier rather than someone having the power to order from a normal supermarket. (Things like bread and pasta for example)

The NHS COULD save so much money with more effective management. But they have clueless people making some really strange financial decisions and are getting ripped off at the same time.

Free heathcare for all is one thing that is essential. Too many people might not seek the help they need as they might not get any help financially from the government, but be earning minimum wage with a family and just not have the money for the doctors.

Here it costs me £20 to visit the doctor. Yep it went up in Jan from 15 quid to 20 (equivalent).
I know that I didn’t go to the doc when I needed to when it was 15… sorta held on and saved up all my complaints so that when I went it was like for 6 or so things!
The less painful thing is though that once you get to 90 quid all visits within a year of your first payment is free. Still pissy though if you dont earn much money and you know you only go a few times. Great for people who are really sick though and will need lots of treatment over a long time.

I hope that GP visits remain free in the UK.

@JustAnotherDarren 445572 wrote:

Ahh, what does that make my dad then?
2 years ago he said this goverment’s making the country go tits up, and he packed his bags.. stopped paying taxes and moved to singapore!

MORE importantly,
Looks like i’m a tory then :S..
As one of the best health care’s in the world is France, although they do charge they charge very little..
it means a lot of people, like those people obsessed with thinking there always ill, forgotten the name obviously.. won’t go and waste a GP’s time. Instead they make a small fee for seeing the doctor, a small fee for the medicines, unless of course they are over a certain amount (around£35-50) where the goverment help you pay!
This seems a lot better, means everyone gets healthcare when you need it.. you don’t get people abusing the free system, but you don’t get the rich people best off. They can still go to private healthcare..?

Well actually you do get ppl abusing the system in France : your right to the extent that the poorest actually don’t pay a thing. Of course the more money you earn the less exempt you are. How it works : you pay a portion of the actual fees, the rest is footed by the govt (it’s called “la Securite Sociale”). In fact it is like the NHS : the only difference is that you have far fewer incompetent ppl. Those interested do long medical studies and are invested in their work.

@FrenchTekno 445902 wrote:

From my point of view it should be a god given right : LIFE IS IMPORTANT : it is being more and more considerd as a commodity. Look at the pharmaceutical industry : their focus is on profits not on whether medication works or not (some do, some don’t, some kill). From my point of view profits in the “industry” of health should be illegal!!

From my point of view its not a right its an amazing privilege that most of the world do not have and that we should fight to keep for as long as possible. The pharmaceutical industry needs to be run as a business if it is to be effective, its not some super ethical hippy commune. Have you any idea how much it costs to develop a new drug? Our whole economy is based on a profit model, I know people seem to find this hard to swallow but peoples greed/desire for profit is what runs this country. I admit sometimes it can be a bitter pill to swallow but hell even being able to worry about the ethics side rather than your attention being focused on your next meal or your health complaints is a luxury afford from the very model people seem to dislike.

Least thats what I think 🙂

PS and to say “their focus is on profits not on whether medication works or not” makes no sense, if a medication works it leads to profit, if it doesn’t it is just lost money. They have rather a vested interest in the medication working.

Hi !sinner69! ,
Very good point mate and to right …..health and education ….public transport ….gas , electric and water all should be state run . Else the greedy private companies max their profits and reduce service and its the customer that suffers !!! .

regards
Mungo

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