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Should he be executed or should he be in jail ?
The Iraqi prime minister has hailed the sentencing of Saddam Hussein to death by hanging for crimes against humanity as “a verdict on a whole dark era”.
Nouri Maliki said he was a criminal who deserved the punishment he was given.
The former Iraqi leader was convicted over the killing of 148 people in the mainly Shia town of Dujail following an assassination attempt on him in 1982.
US President George W Bush said the verdict was a “milestone” for Iraq but the EU urged it not to execute him.
Saddam Hussein and his co-defendants will be given the right to appeal, but that is expected to take only a few weeks and to end in failure for the defendants.
According to the BBC’s Mike Wooldridge, several doubts have also emerged over how soon the sentence can be served.
Iraq’s President Jalal Talabani, one of two people who must authorise the death sentence, is known to oppose the penalty.
Moreover, some legal experts have argued that Saddam Hussein’s ongoing trial for atrocities committed against the Kurdish population should be allowed to reach a verdict before he is executed.
At present, there are no plans to delay the former leader’s execution in order to complete his second trial.
In Iraq celebrations broke out among Shia Muslims, but Sunni areas saw protests and some clashes.
Almost three years since his capture, soaring sectarian violence has brought Iraq to the brink of civil war – and correspondents say few Iraqis think the trial verdict will ease the conflict.
Joy and fury
The deposed Iraqi president denounced the court, the judge and the US-led occupation force during his sentencing in Baghdad.
As the judgement was delivered, Saddam Hussein shouted out “Allahu Akbar!” (God is Great) and “Long live Iraq! Long live the Iraqi people! Down with the traitors!”
Mr Maliki welcomed the conviction in a televised address, saying it did “not represent a verdict for any one person”, but “a verdict on a whole dark era… unmatched in Iraq’s history”.
“Maybe this will help alleviate the pain of the widows and the orphans… and those who have paid at the hands of torturers,” he said.
President Bush called the verdict a “milestone” in the efforts of the Iraqi people “to replace the rule of a tyrant with the rule of law”.
But the EU called on the Iraqi authorities to work for reconciliation and refrain from carrying out the execution.
The Vatican joined several human rights groups in attacking the sentence, described it as a legacy of “eye for an eye” vengeance.
Shortly after the verdict there were jubilant scenes in the Shia district of Sadr City, and in the holy city of Najaf.
But in Saddam Hussein’s hometown Tikrit there was fury, as supporters of the former president defied a curfew to parade with photographs of their hero.
Co-defendants
The Baghdad court also passed death sentences on Saddam Hussein’s half-brother Barzan al-Tikriti and Iraq’s former chief judge Awad Hamed al-Bandar.
THE VERDICTS
Saddam Hussein, former Iraqi president: found guilty and sentenced to death
Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti, Saddam Hussein’s half-brother: found guilty and sentenced to death
Awad Hamed al-Bandar, Chief Judge of Revolutionary Court: found guilty and sentenced to death
Taha Yassin Ramadan, former Iraqi vice-president: found guilty and sentenced to life in jail
Abdullah Kadhem Ruaid Senior Baath official: found guilty and sentenced to 15 years in jail
Abdullah Rawed Mizher, Senior Baath official: found guilty and sentenced to 15 years in jail
Ali Daeem Ali, Senior Baath official: found guilty and sentenced to 15 years in jail
Mohammed Azawi Ali, Baath official: acquitted
Former Vice-President Taha Yassin Ramadan got life in jail and three others received 15-year prison terms.
Another co-defendant, Baath party official Mohammed Azawi Ali, was acquitted.
Many critics have dismissed the trial as a form of victors’ justice, given the close attention the US has paid to it.
Saddam Hussein’s defence team have also accused the government of interfering in the proceedings – a complaint backed by US group Human Rights Watch.
The process was marked by frequent interruptions by defendants and their lawyers and problems with security.
And the former leader’s lawyers have attacked the timing of the planned verdict, which comes days before the US votes in mid-term elections.
Mr Bush’s Republican Party is at risk of losing control of Congress, in part because of voter dissatisfaction over its handling of the Iraq conflict.
Saddam Hussein’s reaction on the sentence!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news/video/64000/nb/64521_16x9_nb.asx
I’m not sure about this one. I don’t really think the death sentance is right for anyone as it’s just an attempt to satisfy humankinds lust for ‘revenge’, and how does that help anyone?
If anything it will make him a martyr to his people and it will cause even more problems.
George Bush has probably managed to kill more innocent Iraqi civilians than Sadam since the military occupation of Iraq. Should an equal punishment be dished out?
IMHO I think Saddam is worth more to the Americans alive than dead,They will probably have a lengthy appeal session where saddams sentence will be a bargaining chip for the Americans for things like oil.
personally i think he should be hung, drawn, quartererd, shot, stabbed, rape’d, mugged, shoved in the iron maden and then minced…
I’m not sure though if he’s worth much as a bargaining point with the Yanks – or even in Iraq he’s doubtless been interrogated many times already and even if torture is used there’s a limit to how much info can be squeezed out of people anyway….
there’s plenty of “normal” lifers in prison who keep quiet about why they have comitted the crimes they did (although they may admit to committing the crime) for every day of their life – or never show any remorse whatsoever…. holding that back is their last bit of control over their victims…
I agree that though there’s the obvious risk of further civil war when he is executed – but that risk exists anyway. it makes no difference whether they hang him or not….he is just one person in a wider national and perhaps global conflict… by his own statements he says he is a soldier, and soldiers expect to die one day…
TBH its a smokescreen – the Yanks have fucked up royally on this engagement as they thought they would have a walkover seizing control of the economy and infrastructure of Iraq to get the oil but that hasn’t quite happened as planned.
it may be worth keeping him alive for further interrogation and to make him face up to what he has done, but keeping his prison conditions to the minimum acceptable to keep someone alive without breaching UN torture rules.. also as a guinea pig not so much for drugs trials but for psychiatrists etc to see if its possible to find out why people become dictators/control freaks…
Whatever happens to Saddam there is plenty more hate and war left in Iraq for many years.
so he’s being killed for killing 143 people following an armed uprising against his government. the weapons used were supplied by the same countries now occupying Iraq
if there was an armed uprising against Bush or Blair, how do you think it would be dealth with? talking to the people nicely? or bringing in the army to crush them?
hypocrisy is rife
Death penalty is inappropriate in all circumstances. He should be imprisoned for the rest of this life. There is no greater punishment than see your life in 4 corners of the cell – worthless and defeated.
kill the cunt hahaha[EVIL] [/EVIL] baby xx
he deserves all he gets…why should he be shown any mercy did he show any when on his own killing spree, killing those who disagreed with him and his regime.
Yes he sent in the army to stop the uprising but they live under dictatorship, saddam and his regime, most of whom were his family or friends…but he told the people of Iraq how to live. it’s difficult but if it happened here in the UK, what would happen.
He has requested death by military firing squad, this will make him a matyr, but if he is hanged he will not be worshipped as he will be executed as a common thief.
I’m surprised that the verdict came so fast,Thought it was going to take at least a year or 2 more..
:hopeless: :hopeless:
Death sentence for Saddam upheld
Saddam Hussein must be executed within 30 days, Iraqi law says
Iraq’s Appeals Court has upheld the death sentence against ousted President Saddam Hussein.
The court rejected an appeal by Saddam Hussein’s lawyers and confirmed that he would be hanged, court spokesman Raed Juhi told the BBC.
The appeal was launched after an Iraqi court sentenced Saddam Hussein to death on 5 November for the 1982 killings of 148 Shias in the town Dujail.
Under Iraqi law, Saddam Hussein must be executed within 30 days.
“It cannot exceed 30 days. As from tomorrow [Wednesday] the sentence could be carried out at any time,” Appeals Court judge Arif Shaheen told a news conference in Baghdad.
He added that there could no further appeal against the verdict.
The White House called the ruling a milestone in Iraq’s efforts “to replace the rule of a tyrant with the rule of law”.
But India has urged clemency – expressing concern over any delay to the restoration of peace in Iraq – and the EU has called on Iraq not to carry out the death sentence.
Secret
The decision of the Appeals Court must be ratified by Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, but Judge Shaheen said Saddam Hussein’s sentence could not be commuted.
Saddam Hussein’s defence lawyer Khalil al-Dulaimi told the AFP news agency that the court’s verdict “was expected”.
“We were not at all surprised, as we are convinced that this has been – 100% – a political trial,” he said.
The BBC’s Peter Greste in Baghdad says the authorities are keeping the time and place of the execution a closely guarded secret.
He says we might only know if Saddam Hussein is finally dead after the sentence has been carried out.
The former president is currently facing a separate trial in connection with a military campaign against Kurdish communities in the 1980s.
But Iraqi authorities have always said that they will carry out the sentence even if court proceedings are still under way, our correspondent says.
‘Flawed trial’
Saddam Hussein was convicted of human rights abuses in relation to the killings of the 148 Shias in Dujail, north of Baghdad, after a failed assassination attempt against the former Iraqi leader in 1982.
THE VERDICTS
Saddam Hussein, former Iraqi president: found guilty and sentenced to death
Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti, Saddam Hussein’s half-brother: found guilty and sentenced to death
Awad Hamed al-Bandar, Chief Judge of Revolutionary Court: found guilty and sentenced to death
Taha Yasin Ramadan, former Iraqi vice-president: found guilty and sentenced to life in jail
Abdullah Kadhem Ruaid Senior Baath official: found guilty and sentenced to 15 years in jail
Abdullah Rawed Mizher, Senior Baath official: found guilty and sentenced to 15 years in jail
Ali Daeem Ali, Senior Baath official: found guilty and sentenced to 15 years in jail
Mohammed Azawi Ali, Baath official: acquitted
Saddam Hussein’s half-brother Barzan al-Tikriti and Iraq’s former chief judge Awad Hamed al-Bandar were also sentenced to death.
Former Vice-President Taha Yassin Ramadan was sentenced to life imprisonment and three others received 15-year prison terms.
Another co-defendant, Baath party official Mohammed Azawi Ali, was acquitted.
Saddam Hussein has said the court was illegitimate.
Many critics have dismissed the trial as a form of victors’ justice, given the close attention the US had paid to it.
Before the sentencing session began, former US Attorney General Ramsey Clark was ejected from the courtroom after handing the judge a note in which he called the trial a “travesty”.
Saddam Hussein’s defence team had also accused the government of interfering in the proceedings – a complaint backed by US group Human Rights Watch.
The 5 November verdict sparked celebrations in Baghdad but protests in Saddam Hussein’s hometown of Tikrit.
the last thing the american leaders want is saddam hussein alive. he was rushed through this show-trial to the death sentence to prevent him telling the world of america and britain’s true involvement in iraq and the middle east. he was our puppet in the region for years and the only reason we went after him is he stopped doing our bidding.
The gassing of the kurds which he is being prosecuted for happened in 1988. at that exact moment, britain’s man David Mellor. within one month the Department of Trade offered £340 million in export credits. you could look at that as a payoff, if you were cynical.
if saddam is allowed to testify in a UN court against the war crimes of our “great” leaders of teh last 20 years, they would all be facing jail. george, tony, maggie, the lot.
I’m exactly the same opinion as Mr USE…death sentence should apply to every occidental politician…Saddam just made the dirty jobs for them.Too easy to have only one usual suspect.But it’s always the same old story…
incidentally I remember when the presidential palace in Iraq was being turned over by UK/US troops; and they showed Saddams “red telephone” on the special circuit to the military
I have an interest in military technology and tend to look out for things like this.. it was an red dial telephone set -it is common practice to use this older technology as it is more robust against electromagnetic weapons
what was interesting though is that is was a red one of these
665 may remember this from his youth 😉
it looks like a French contractor must have set up this communications system (maybe Alcatel?)’
every part of Europe profited from the middle east dictatorships; now we are getting the payback in worldwide conflict and terrorism..
if saddam is allowed to testify in a UN court against the war crimes of our “great” leaders of the last 20 years, they would all be facing jail. george, tony, maggie, the lot.
I agree with this – initially Saddam Hussein was the golden boy of the north americans right up to the point where he developed a mind of his own and stopped doing what he was told.
I would be very interested in the records of those times [which were probably conveniently destroyed in the invasion of Iraq if they still existed] bet the blood would be spread around in all kinds of places where it is hard to wash off…..
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