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January 7, 2015 at 5:28 am

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aust10

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So I just got on probation a friend got some acacia root bark. Did some extractions. Smoked leisurely pretty apprehensive about inhaling too deeply for a few weeks here and there never experienced much. Visuals euphoric feeling short duration. So a few weeks ago I smoked some felt really good. But didn’t break through, I really wanted to break through and see what there was more to this life. The entities of love I heard about so after failing once again to break through, I watched the spirit molecule. Once it was over I readied a large bowl(much more than ever before) and set the intention to meet these entities or just break through. I must note being on probation I’ve been in a constant state of anxiety and fear about drug test and what not, stress from my total situation of life. Anyhow. I smoked and inhaled as deeply as I could. Smoked and smoked more until the bowl was gone. Immediately I noticed vision change. I looked at my hands and they began to shrink and look alien( slimy) I felt them and they felt the way they looked. I felt my head and it felt the same. I looked around objects appeared alien, things took on a weird scary dimension, seeming reptilian for lack of a better word, I saw digital squares, the whole experience didn’t seem natural but rather synthesized. The breakthrough- after losing awareness of my surroundings and my body. I was pure consciousness. Immediately I was in a BRIGHT white room. Nearest thing I could think spaceship? I was trying not to make judgements. An entity was there clear as day looking straight at me grinning wide, humanoid black cloaked looked remarkably similar to the alien “the awoken” off of the video game destiny. Immense fear took over, this is the opposite of what I imagined, I noticed another being I couldn’t remember recognizable features, most I could remember same cloak but a lizard like head that changed colors. After this the fear gripped me. I wanted to cease existence, the afterlife scared me, the existence of myself as a soul scared me. These beings had a sinister feel and unnatural manipulative. After I came down to hearing my friend say it’s not real it’s not real, I began to cry, I hugged him asking why, what, the fuck, how? Never met a positive spirit or anything. I don’t know what to do or what to think. Only love and leading a more compassionate life is what I could think. Also I was wearing earplugs. And when I took them out the experience ended.
January 7, 2015 at 5:40 am

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tryptameanie

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That certainly sounds like DMT. Have you used it before and if yes was it similar?

Doesn’t sound like you were in the right frame of mind to be smoking DMT but understand that not every experience will be happy or orgasmicly pleasant, these things can be disturbing and unpleasant but you can still learn from it as it sounds like you have.

How are you feeling now? Other than still coming to terms with the event how do you feel physically? Any issues there at all?
January 7, 2015 at 6:02 am

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aust10

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It didn’t feel familiar though it did seem like something I’ve seen in a movie(the bright white background, like the matrix) it felt like I didn’t belong and I stepped in the wrong room so to speak. I feel fine e physically and trying to be a better person in life because this makes me feel as though there is something crazy to our wavelengths. I’ve been having dreams almost every night, but worldly and with stories that have to do with family and friends or familiar people I’ve actually seen. No crazy alien shit. I feel more perplexed about the nature of reality and consciousness and my inability to understand and explain it than ever. And I feel like my peace of mind isn’t all there. I’d like to do dmt with a different state of mind once I’m stable and no longer in probation, leading a life of love and happiness. I’d also like to do it outdoors in a natural setting rather than in an apartment.
January 7, 2015 at 6:05 am

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aust10

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I used it in super light doses like 8 times prior(almost daily) and it was nothing like that, slight geometry and movement, euphoric but I was completely in this world. The thing about that was I was burning it wrong, at very small doses and not inhaling too deeply. So I didn’t have much respect for the drugs power as I had tripped much harder off of research chems
January 7, 2015 at 6:10 am

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tryptameanie

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That’s the difference probably mate, the dosage. Tiny changes in dose with DMT are profoundly different in effect, even as little as 5mg difference can make a big differnce to your trip.
January 7, 2015 at 11:01 am

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The Psyentist

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Yo buddy. Well first off, and I hope my information is correct when I say this, but your brain produces small quantities of DMT anyway. Meaning, as it is a substance already present in the body it will not show up on a toxicology report, i.e. it can’t be traced through any drug test. You should come out clean each time. Plus it has a really short half-life, meaning your body metabolises and processes the chemical really quickly. So if it was detectable by drug test, the test would have to be done pretty much immediately after use. Hopefully that will put your mind at ease a bit, aiding in having a more pleasant trip next time.

Also are you holding your inhalation in? Holding it in is more key than just filling your lungs with the stuff. You’re more likely to have a positive breakthrough if you take two or three hits but hold each in for around 10 seconds, than if you take 6-7 tokes but exhale immediately. Doing that requires smaller doses too, so you get more for your monies worth.
January 7, 2015 at 11:04 am

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tryptameanie

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It’s definitely true that the body produces it but I think it’s broken down by enzymes in the same way as trying to take it orally would destroy it unless taken with a MAOI but not sure.

I’ll check it out now.
January 7, 2015 at 11:13 am

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The Psyentist

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Just cos you had a sketchy trip, don’t be put off.

DMT is a very powerful, but ultimately wonderful chemical. Your expectations of the high can also affect the high you get. I’ve done DMT approximately 10 times, all my episodes with it have been similar, to an extent, but also each is unique. I think if you’re expecting or wanting a spiritual trip, that’s what you’ll usually get, but if you’re thinking it can just be pure recreational fun; you may get a surprise, and not always a good one. I’ve tried taking it with the intention of both spirituality and just messy lolz in mind. The spiritual adventure is generally more fun and rewarding.

Whether or not you can actually have a bad DMT trip I think is debatable; although some would disagree and say you definitely can. But I personally believe it comes down to your interpretation of what you’re shown; if you thought it was scary and don’t think beyond that, it’ll just seem like a negative experience. But on the other hand, you can tell yourself, right, now I’ve seen the dark side I’m better prepared to deal with it should it happen again, you’ve learnt something and that’s a positive.
January 7, 2015 at 11:16 am

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The Psyentist

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@Tryptameanie 583969 wrote:

It’s definitely true that the body produces it but I think it’s broken down by enzymes in the same way as trying to take it orally would destroy it unless taken with a MAOI but not sure.

I’ll check it out now.

Let us know what your research tells you, that was my belief but obviously don’t want to be giving out false information.
January 7, 2015 at 11:27 am

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tryptameanie

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No, as I suspected it can be detected which is the same for probably all tryptamines even 5-hydroxy tryptophan, the basic tryptamine molecule is produced regularly in the body.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine#Detection_in_body_fluids

This shows DMT detection and levels from the 1st discovery of it in humans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine#Endogenous_DMT

From what I read the DMT produced in the brain is not broken down but must be prepared at such a low dose naturally or people are naturally tolerant of the amounts pruduced in the brain.

But then I just saw this which is more in depth (probably, haven’t actua;lly read it all yet) from erowid:

https://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=3146
January 7, 2015 at 12:01 pm

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The Psyentist

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@Tryptameanie 583972 wrote:

No, as I suspected it can be detected which is the same for probably all tryptamines even 5-hydroxy tryptophan, the basic tryptamine molecule is produced regularly in the body.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine#Detection_in_body_fluids

This shows DMT detection and levels from the 1st discovery of it in humans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine#Endogenous_DMT

From what I read the DMT produced in the brain is not broken down but must be prepared at such a low dose naturally or people are naturally tolerant of the amounts pruduced in the brain.

But then I just saw this which is more in depth (probably, haven’t actua;lly read it all yet) from erowid:

https://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=3146

Well there we go, don’t pay attention to anything I say
January 7, 2015 at 12:04 pm

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tryptameanie

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I could have told him that before you even started :laugh_at:
January 7, 2015 at 12:04 pm

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The Psyentist

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@Tryptameanie 583978 wrote:

I could have told him that before you even started :laugh_at:

Cheeky bugger lol
January 7, 2015 at 12:10 pm

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tryptameanie

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:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::surprised:surprised:surprised:surprised. Surely you don’t mean me?
January 7, 2015 at 12:16 pm

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The Psyentist

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@Tryptameanie 583981 wrote:

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::surprised:surprised:surprised:surprised. Surely you don’t mean me?

Nah, I meant the OP of course:rolleyes:
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