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Ok, so this one has always puzzled me.
So, we mostly all agree that mental health including day to day “normal” works on a spectrum of sort, and generally ill mental health is a step too far in on direction of the lines that make our characteristics…
So, with this still in mind. We allow certain types of behaviour to go unnoticed, or at least can justify them to a point where the person is not judged for that behaviour. For example, someone is angry, often take this as out of character, because their brain at the time is working under a different “mode” as it were.
So lets stretch this out a little. A person has a more permanent characteristic. A good exaggerated example would be a child who was bullied by their parent/s, and is now an adult. There can be lots of outcomes, but a common one can be anger. Quick to defend themselves from being belittled in most situations which others might be so sensitive in. Remembering this is a theoretical person not a stereotype.
In these cases, people who knew this person would justify their actions because of their past. It’s not their fault.
So im getting a little closer to the point here. :weee:
We are all driven by our minds of course. How much control do we really actually have? Sure it’s affected by variables, but we don’t control those. Maybe to some extent. Alot of people’s bad characteristics are results of just being that person at that time. That bullied person didn’t want to be bullied, but now suffers anger problems when faced with possible humility. Except it’s nothing too drastic in his case. Most of us have similar problems, maybe from a lesser cause though.
So going down the spectrum a bit more. Murders. What drove them to that place? Them? Their mind? Are they 2 different things? How can a person control themselves if we are all just a set of rolling dice waiting to bounce of the sides.
It kind of shows how primitive we all still are in our understanding of everything. Despite me thinking about this, I will still get angered by lots of crimes or people. And I will still be blamed for doing what I do as we all are. Being responsible.
Responsible for what!?
That’s the confusing part now, because of course we have lived like this forever. Having the illusion of control. Which we do, we do. To some extent.
So who deserved to be hung or imprisoned. I know no one should, but how would we define ourselves or control the world without these things? Paedophiles. What I was mainly getting at. The most extreme example I have thought about. Just another man who got bullied? Just an example of course. To get our full set of characteristics we have now, we’ve had to go through alot of seconds. Each containing life changing experiences, at least when added together…
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Always wanted to bring this up, I’ve thought about it alot (busy bored mind lol). Although considering to some people it may look like I am justifying Paedos I hadn’t bothered.
Im not really making any conclusions really. I don’t think I’m literally able to!
hello there… i think about this sort of thing a lot of the time… youve written it well.
I feel that we as a species do have a large amount of control as to the way we perceive events – i feel we can condition ourselves into reacting to certain things… i do it myself, i can just let things pass by and others will put me on high alert… as part of a modern society much of this conditioning will come ‘ naturally ‘ through day to day life but i think if you put your mind to it you can… change your mind, though this control is not without limits i feel, we cant completely change who we are – there will always be undertones.
having said that, i feel that humans, and our minds, are far too unimportant and miniscule that its not something that should have time wasted upon – we are not here to change the world, to save everything – we dont control the universe. nothing controls nothing i feel. we just have a strong sense of emotion(as a species generally), and so thoughts of responsibility are actually considered by us.
we are just as insignificant as any other species on the planet – we just feel more emotion and think more. we serve no helpful purpose, we are parasites…
though i feel through society we have, whether through manipulation or evolution, grown to feel as if we have responsibility. if you look at society as an entity, one of the attributes that we, as mankind, have created, is that looking at children is wrong. whilst i in no way advocate this, can you see what i mean?
if you take remove from the onion the layer of society, and subsequently responsibility – paedos are just as insignificant as everything else.
perhaps in another society in another universe, eating vegetables is not tolerated by society, perhaps the equivalent of murder.
i find it difficult to explain, but can you see where i am coming from? im saying that, if you take away the aspects of emotion etcetera, you look at society, you just see these rules and regulations – they dont seem to have any meaning behind them, its sort of picking on a very small bunch to glue the rest of society together. and it appears to do this successfully. murder… its just one of billions ceasing to exist. stealing – an organism utilised a resource.
Now lets bring back the element of emotion and reassess this. you become the subject of society. every moment you have lived, solitary or integrated, has been impressioned by society and all of its rules. it is almost disgusting that an aged adult may attempt any contact with a child if not immediately acquainted. if a man is to kill another, he is to be harshly punished.
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Once again, very hard to write about, im just trying to look at this from a viewpoint without emotion or society – wheres everything becomes nothing.
i feel the one fatal flaw of society is that it is too impossible a task for all humanity to decide together at the same time, with no individual gaining an advantage or disadvantage over any other.
and if one does have advantage or power over another, the way the human species has (indirectly or directly) chosen to function, human emotion comes into the equation – why is he allowed to decide, why does he deserve this?
impossible questions with no immediate answer other than to get mashed / high / jolly / whatever-floats-ya-boat, and bang out the reggae on a fucking huge rig in a nice sunny field.
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