Party Vibe

I disagree with this whole rule to ‘respect the dead’

I respect those living who I believe to be good, moral, empathetic people,

if someone who is alive that I do not respect – the fact they are dead isn’t going to suddenly make me respect them

This is true for my family members too, as I do not respect a few of them, 2 are dead and one is dying – my belief and opinion of them does not change, at one funeral we actually asked ourselves if we were at the right one when the vicar or whatever started going on about this person they had clearly not met

I am going to Trafalgar Square on Saturday, this is something I’ve planned to do for several years, so I am not jumping on some band wagon,

I am aware she was a human being, and she had family, but I am also aware of her blatant disrespect for those who completed suicide as they were so ashamed that they couldn’t feed their families –

Did she respect them? No, she called them ‘moaning Minnie’s on the news

This says it much better than I can

That’s why I support the campaign to see Ding Dong make number one. It’s important to counter the revision of Thatcher’s legacy by making it clear we do not agree with it. That the whole of Britain did not support Maggie or her policies and most importantly, we still don’t. That is important because her policies are still decimating the UK, and Cameron’s policies wouldn’t have been possible without her. The ‘bedroom tax’ is identical to the ‘poll tax’ in effect – taxing the poor to make up for giveaways to the rich. He will use her death as propaganda and in this small cheeky way, we can fight that.

And let’s be clear on what Thatcher’s legacy is: She supported brutal regimes around the world, from the Khmer Rouge to Pinochet; she opposed sanctions on South Africa’s apartheid regime while referring to Nelson Mandela and the ANC as “typical terrorists”. She lengthened the war in Ireland by possibly decades.
Her assault on the lower and working classes was never ending. She cut milk for school children, lowered the top tax rate while raising the bottom one, doubled VAT, and privatised pretty much everything she could without creating competition.

She crushed the unions and then industry, especially mining, and finally launched the ‘Big Bang’, pushing high risk financial deregulation of the financial industry that directly led to the global recession, bailouts, and cuts we’re facing today.
The Baroness is the reason for today’s housing crisis, the welfare crisis, the financial crisis, and finally, she advised Tony Blair on how to turn the Labour party into the new Tories while the Conservatives turn into the American Republican Party.
She spent her post Downing Street years as a consultant for Phillip Morris. In short, she was a vile human being whose ‘bravery’ can be attributed to just not giving a shit about people.

Making Ding Dong number one in the UK charts may seem childish, sure. But it also helps combat the revisionist narrative played across UK media. And it follows in proper punk tradition. It’s a small, creative way to force the media to acknowledge Britons dislike for policies that have crushed the country. It is a far cry from what needs to be done. We need to organize effectively to stop and reverse this government’s continued attack on the working and middle class. We need to stop operation of the machine. But right now – in your office cubicle, or dorm room, it’s a simple way to say no to the propaganda, and remind the world that most of us are not sad to see Thatcher go, and we’ll celebrate properly when Thatcherism is gone.

Adam Jung: Why I Support Making ‘Ding Dong, the Witch Is Dead’ Number One This Week

But our right to expression is still being quashed – and by the people who we pay our tv licence money to, the bbc aren’t going to play the full song, but what 5 seconds of it – so still ( whether you agree or not with the song) our voices are being silenced

Police officer resigns over Margaret Thatcher tweets

A police officer who allegedly tweeted that he hoped the death of Lady Thatcher was “painful and degrading” has resigned from the Metropolitan police.

In reaction to so-called death parties that greeted the former prime minister’s death on Monday, Scott reportedly tweeted: “Marvellous stuff! Margaret Thatcher’s death greeted with street parties in Brixton and Glasgow.”

He attacked other politicians, allegedly posting: “Goodnight Twitter. The world is a better place today now that c*** is dead. Now for Cameron, May and Osborne.”
Sergeant Jeremy Scott quit as the Met prepared to suspend him, a prelude to disciplinary action that was likely to lead to a severe sanction.

The title of this forum – party vibe, this is what happened To a lot of our oldee members and their families / our predecessors who tried to have free parties / festivals, under thatcher
In case you don’t know or had forgotten:
Written in 2009
Remember the Battle of the Beanfield | Andy Worthington | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

Exactly 24 years ago, in a field beside the A303 in Wiltshire, the might of Margaret Thatcher’s militarised police descended on a convoy of new age travellers, green activists, anti-nuclear protestors and free festival-goers, who were en route to Stonehenge in an attempt to establish the 12th annual Stonehenge free festival in fields across the road from Britain’s most famous ancient monument. That event has become known as the Battle of the Beanfield.

In many ways the epitome of the free festival movement of the 1970s, the Stonehenge free festival – an annual anarchic jamboree that, in 1984, had attracted tens of thousands of visitors – had been an embarrassment to the authorities for many years, but its violent suppression, when police from six counties and the Ministry of Defence cornered the convoy of vehicles in a field and, after an uneasy stand-off, invaded the field on foot and in vehicles, subjecting men, women and children to a distressing show of physical force, was, like the Miners’ strike the year before, and the suppression of the printers at Wapping the year after, a brutal display of state violence that signaled a major curtailment of civil liberties.

In the context of political dissent at the time, the Stonehenge festival was a mere sideshow, but the government knew that its suppression would not cause offence to the general public, especially as most media outlets were prevailed upon to refrain from reporting on it (valiant exceptions were the Observer’s Nick Davies and Kim Sabido for ITN). As a result, the government knew that it could disguise its other motives: the curtailment in general of the British public’s right to gather freely without prior permission, and the suppression of a grassroots movement opposed to the installation of US cruise missiles on UK soil.

The most celebrated opponents of nuclear weapons in the UK were the women of Greenham Common, but as it would have been a PR disaster to have had police truncheoning a group of women, the new age travellers, who had set up a peace camp at RAF Molesworth in Cambridgeshire (the proposed second base for cruise missiles) were a more obvious target, and the Battle of the Beanfield took place just four months after 1,500 soldiers and police – in the largest peacetime mobilisation of its kind – were used to evict the camp.

Above all, though, the major fallout from the Battle of the Beanfield was the government’s manipulation of the manufactured hysteria about the travellers and protestors to introduce the 1986 Public Order Act, which enabled the police to evict two or more people for trespass, providing that “reasonable steps have been taken by or on behalf of the occupier to ask them to leave.” The act also stipulated that six days’ written notice had to be given to the police before most public processions, and allowed the police to impose unspecified “conditions” if they feared that a procession “may result in serious public disorder, serious damage to property or serious disruption to the life of the community.”

The Battle of the Beanfield was not the end of grassroots dissent in the UK – although it gutted the travellers’ movement – as a new “threat” emerged just a few years later, when the acid house scene, with its giant warehouse raves and outdoor parties, once more threw the government – and the tabloids – into an authoritarian frenzy. As with Stonehenge, the catalyst for a further assault on civil liberties was another large free festival, at Castlemorton common in Gloucestershire, on the May bank holiday weekend in 1992.

The legislation that followed – the 1994 Criminal Justice Act – not only repealed the 1968 Caravans Sites Act, criminalising the entire way of life of gypsies and travellers by removing the obligation on local authorities to provide sites for gypsies, but also amended the Public Order Act by introducing the concept of “trespassory assembly.” This enabled the police to ban groups of 20 or more people meeting in a particular area if they feared “serious disruption to the life of the community,” even if the meeting was non-obstructive and non-violent, and the act also introduced “aggravated trespass,” which finally transformed trespass from a civil to a criminal concern.

Both had disturbing ramifications for almost all kinds of protests and alternative gatherings, and were clearly ramped up after the government failed to secure convictions after the Battle of the Beanfield using an ancient charge of “unlawful assembly.” Moreover, as protestors have been discovering in the years since the passing of the Criminal Justice Act, the groundwork laid by the Public Order Act and the Criminal Justice Act provided the Labour government, which has passed more legislation directed at civil liberties than any previous government, to start from a presumption that there were few, if any instances when a peaceful protest by just two people could not be suppressed.

Back in 1997, some of us had a quaint notion that the government would repeal the excesses of the Criminal Justice Act; instead, we are living with three other changes enacted by the Act that still have resonance today: the police’s right to take DNA samples from those arrested, increased “stop and search” powers, and amendments to the right to silence of an accused person, allowing inferences to be drawn from their silence. We have an exclusion zone around parliament, in which a single non-violent protestor can be arrested, anti-terror legislation used to stifle dissent, and, as we saw at the G20 protests in April, policemen once more hiding their identification numbers – as they did at the Battle of the Beanfield – to enable them to assault civilians (or worse) with impunity.

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Stonehenge free festival – 1985- The Battle Of The Beanfield.

@Mezz 539947 wrote:

Sickening and disrespectful, whatever your political views this was a person who has a family

Anyone who supports this shit deserves the same treatment, see how they like having insulting songs played nationally about their relatives when they loose them

Strange, you seem to think its OK to openly tell sex abuse jokes but not OK to laugh at the death of an old PM.
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@General Lighting 540030 wrote:

TBH coming from a 52 year old copper from metpol thats a bit hipocritical too even if he didn’t vote for her, as metpol did fairly well in her tenure as did coppers as a whole. their bosses were able to twist maggies arm to pay for lots of nice new shiny kit as a payback for dealing with all the hard stuff in the 1980s, particularly new radios and computers and surveillance kit (they had to change the radios anyway as the UK was getting bollocked by the world for stealing a chunk of band II from broadcasters). if it it was a miner or someone tweeting in this fashion or even a younger copper who has experienced recent budget cuts then it would be more understandable

Yep I posted it 1) as was surprised a copper had ‘tweeted it’ and 2) couldn’t understand the sheer stupid fucking mindedness!! I mean he should ( out of anyone) know the Internet is being closely monitored due to the current climate, plans for tomorrow and wed…

@Izbeckistan 540026 wrote:

Strange, you seem to think its OK to openly tell sex abuse jokes but not OK to laugh at the death of an old PM.
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She’s not just any old PM.
She was quite a c*nt!