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depends what drugs you use and how much etc I think K might have damaged some of my cognitive function, theres evidence to show it can, but I believe its thought to be temporary (though there’s not much info I dont think). I think once the weed is out my system my mind will be clearer.

for me its more the education missed out on, the time spend wasted rather than doing real life things eg learning.

@DaftFader 383544 wrote:

Um .. I was gonna reply but i forgot what the thread was about.

lol

@General Lighting 383558 wrote:

They do not “bramage your dain” permanently.

there is some evidence dissociatives cause brain damage, espehcally PCP isnt there? Although I know its old and in mice. Olys lesions or something?

Though its only in rats and not in humans, but still, it points in the brain damage direction. Dunno if its permanent or not though.

Olney’s lesions – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Olney’s lesions, also known as NMDA receptor antagonist neurotoxicity (NAN), are a potential form of brain damage. They are named after John Olney, who conducted a study investigating neurotoxicity caused by PCP and related drugs in 1989.

Abstract
Phencyclidine (PCP), a dissociative anesthetic and widely abused psychotomimetic drug, and MK-801, a potent PCP receptor ligand, have neuroprotective properties stemming from their ability to antagonize the excitotoxic actions of endogenous excitatory amino acids such as glutamate and aspartate. There is growing interest in the potential application of these compounds in the treatment of neurological disorders. However, there is an apparent neurotoxic effect of PCP and related agents (MK-801, tiletamine, and ketamine), which has heretofore been overlooked: these drugs induce acute pathomorphological changes in specific populations of brain neurons when administered subcutaneously to adult rats in relatively low doses. These findings raise new questions regarding the safety of these agents in the clinical management of neurodegenerative diseases and reinforce concerns about the potential risks associated with illicit use of PCP.

@General Lighting 383564 wrote:

The issue with drugs “making people stupid” is more that they drop out of work or education and/or indulge in other activities what relate to short term gratification rather than long term learning. All this is reversible (in fact it doesn’t even mean quitting drugs totally!) but many people (other than the regular folk on here!) are just too stubborn, and already in a “anti-intellectual” circle of friends.

I think your right there, more about the whole lifestyle than the drugs. I guess its all about how much self control you have too, partying at the odd weekend without using drugs all week is probably akin (as u say) to drinking in safe levels or other such things.

I guess with regards to K the one thing you can say for certain is even if there is a risk of some brain damage, the effects on the bladder seem far far far more problematic. Glad PCP isnt popular over here

@p0ly 383570 wrote:

Well if you haven’t done any maths for like 4 years then try to do some proper maths you’ll realise… oh shit… i seem to be shit compared to how i used to be. Need to keep your brain busy with certain things otherwise you’ll start to lose some abilities.

I heard that mate, When I did that Navy maths test I knew straight away that I was fucked. Didn’t understand any of it. :laugh_at:

This question is too broad

1 atom of drugs will not damage your memory but taking 10g of coke and 10g of ketamine every day will probably irreversably damage your memory

As with all things in life if you do things in moderation you are probably safe