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For some reason I’m still partying at 33, can get away with behaving and looking like I’m 21 and despite a lifestyle which hasn’t exactly been “clean living” haven’t “burnt myself out” yet…
yet I’ve noticed that most of the girls I meet at raves are fairly young (late teens to early 20s) [not that I’m complaining about that though!!!] – but a lot of girls seem to just stop raving from age 25 onwards.
I can fully understand if long-term relationships and children are the cause of this, I strongly think if two people have decided to settle down and bring a new life into this world than your first priority is to make sure the children have a good start in life…
but many of the girls I know who’ve stopped raving now are single and/or without kids, but just decided to calm things down….
always wondered about this one…
A lot of people I know have started doing this…most have suddenly developed an urge to cleanse their bodies and be good to themselves in order to prepare for having a child.
interesting – the girls round here (Reading/Oxfordshire/Bucks) are often concentrating more on their studies and careers, but are still just as up for getting pissed or even taking a few drugs and certainly don’t want to start families! they just “can’t be bothered with parties any more”
could it be a regional thing? there seems to be a very strong emphasis on families in Scotland and other celtic areas, and also amongst the Asian community (I am even seen as a “black sheep” by many of my own family for still leading a wild lifestyle and not settling down yet!)
but nowadays people can have kids in their 30s and 40s….
sometimes wonder though if a lot of people (from both genders) cane it too hard in the first few years and just burn themselves out then get disillusioned with the whole thing…. too much, too fast, too young?
london seams to have an older crowd. and they have more older women going to their parties than the oxford lot do. the oxford lot seam to all be aged 16-20.
its funny, cos when native beats started up, a lot of the girls who were goin to all our more legal parties suddenly flunked out when it got to raves. it was well confusing to be honest, they said the same thing about “cant be arsed”. we got lots of girls at the raves, but they were either 16-20 or older and rare. i think we just hung around too many squares before, we still have one female member of the crew who’s 26 and still going sensible, i mean strong.
in general i think the lack of older women is due to access/ legal issues, where once they split up with their raver boyfreind, they either want to avoid his old haunts or dont have the contacts any more. plus they seem more scared of the police element, and more worried about the two people that may be kept awake.
my girlfriend has been to a few of our raves but theyve either gone tits-up thanks to the cops, or she has flaked out half way thru, and made me feel all guilty. im determined to get her into raves, but its getting harder to convince her.
i spose raving just fits into male social conditioning better than womens.
shame.
they should break out, like lady p and spike of squatjuice fame. now there are some chicks who can party.
I tried that…an failed. All that happened was I’d have her attached to me all night askin me when I was going home. An then moan when I went wandering off into the woods with random folk to see if I can find my stick.
shame.
more than a shame IMO – potentially a long-term danger to this culture….
the ladies are half the force of any progressive movement – we’re losing a lot of positive female energy (LOL – that sounds like some real hippy comment).
and in some areas and amongst many groups of people the rave scene evolved into an actual replacement for “townie” clubs and pubs; and increasingly people are looking for potential partners on the rave scene
when you’ve got half the older girls leaving you’ve now got two “generations” of lads competing for the remainder (would account for a lot of the threads on SJ I’ve seen recently!) – in a male dominated group.
This just leads to a stack of sexual tension, envy and jealousy which is a potential precursor to violence – a bit like the townie club where the young lads get angry at an older man cracking on to “dem yatties from our ends innit” and empty a CS gas canister into his face (this actually happened one Christmas at one of our local nightspots)
but it could also be that girls are slightly better and noticing when things are getting “too much” whilst too many blokes just carry on regardless and drag themselves and others down with them…..
one positive note is that most of the “ex-raver” girls I know are still doing progressive and positive stuff with their lives such as setting up organic farms, fashion workshops, arts type stuff and aren’t dissing parties etc or worse still turning darkside such as joining the old bill, customs or anti-drugs/rave organisations and using their knowledge to destroy parties..
can’t believe though that none of the girls on here have anything to say on this subject though….
im finding parties harder to find in my area. im 25, and its got to a stage with my social circle that im a bit bored of some of the peeps in it. the fact that we dont seem to get anywhere till 5am these days with peeps getting to fuckered to pull it together and then they too fuckered to get there. :groan:
Sat Nav indeed..
Or they set up their own lil local ones which get a bit dull cos theres the same old faces and local cliques and politics. :Yawn:
When we do find one these days i take it a bit easier 😉 than i used to.. and working saturdays never helps for this lil pixie.
And im trying to set up a business doing handmade jewellery and accessories.. so i guess my raving days arent over… just slowed down.. Ive seen so many people who are burnt out and fucking it all up so im not gonna quit.. just take it a little easy and find some different cool peeps to play with.
Pixie
It seems to me that most of the girls at parties these days are sat huddled up in the car after getting bored with the whole ‘getting there’ issue. However I also feel too much too young can be a factor as girls tend to get introduced to the party scene at an earlier age due to the whole older boyfriend syndrome, go to parties every week and over do it, then get washed up never to return again.
It is sad cos’ when I first started partying one of the great things for me was the girls with great attitudes and something to say for themselves, unlike the usual girls in clubs that might as well be carrying a ‘fill my hole’ sign.
i think its just the fact that in general women tend to worry more than blokes.so i guess as they get older and theres more to think about…bills/family/friends/relationships etc they just feel the minor stresses of say getting to a rave,getting home from a rave,getting caught with drugs or whatever,isn’t really worth the extra headfuck.
true, I think girls tend to look at the consequences of their actions more…
blokes brush of stuff like minor car accidents, being nicked etc (or at least hide the inner paranoia or pain) – then when they’re older realise their insurance premiums are through the roof, or they have less clout in the job market because many places require CRB check now (even private firms) and they often even look at cautions
This isn’t good for society though as a lot of lads/men also just think “fuck it” when it gets to this point and drive anyway without the paperwork, or start doing “cash in hand” work or crime as a “fuck you” to the society which threw them on the scrap heap…
OTOH its possible there isn’t that much difference between the genders,, only about 2 years or so and most lads also stop raving around age 27 onwards (or at least calm it down).
I will admit myself I don’t go to all the raves every weekend and I am very selective about which ones I do attend and who I go with, so as to avoid too much risk of trouble (either with OB or other people…)
I try not to stay too long unless I have booked time off as I realise I have to be responsible at work (if I fuck up, its public money which is lost, money all of you have paid towards…)
but maybe that’s why I’ve got away with it for so long…..
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