Party Vibe

@Itsamagicting 495937 wrote:

Build it in Ibiza the home of clubbing, or a city with a high student population as they love going out every night and blowing their loans.

I live in a town with relatively high student population and the students are saving every penny they can and trying to pass their degrees and get a job/car/house.

When I speak to younger staff at work they are visibly shocked when I tell them about the thiings I used to get up to and that I was even still doing them as late as my 30s. Thing is its not that the students are sheep, they are all for stuff like not having the dangerous Sizewell atomic power station, growing their own food, driving a smaller car less often or cycling, but they don’t see hedonism or drugs as constructive any more.

I know this ain’t PC but the kind of folk still going to ibiza are often sixth formers rather than uni age and/or the less educated and they are behaving in a way what is causing a nasty backlash across Europe. I don’t just mean the English either but even youths from countries with stereotypes of being orderly. Then there is all the other political/economic stuff about the euro.

Even ibiza superclubs are starting to show the strain, and they depend on a peaceful and tolerant society. ES wasn’t always a democratic nation even in my own lifetime (I am not that old either! – even after it was democratic the Civil Guard tried to take over the govt (that would be like metpol TSG trying to storm and take over Parliament) and they nearly succeeded, as recently as the 1980s.) Look at what is happening in GR which was a popular tourist destination.

A ton of refugees from the Arab spring isn’t gonna help stability in that part of the world either.

this is what seems so odd about this whole nightclub idea. Southern Europe is going to hell in a handbasket, the natives are becoming perhaps understandably resentful about their northern neighbours using their country as a playground, and such clubs as exist across Europe are downsizing and diversifying.

Superclubs are a hangover from the 1990s and its normally only silly people my age like D-list journos what occasionally get columns in the Grauniad and Torygraph what are nostalgic about them, (amazingly this bullshit nostalgia even crosses political boundaries and overlooks the bitter disputes caused by drugs and licensing laws), not smarter younger people.

I don’t think he’s a troll but god alone knows what his lecturers taught him – probably American “liberals” who put the silly idea into a young mans head that its OK to march into someone elses country or town, foist a contentious, socially problematic business which only serves a small section of people like a nightclub onto a local community and expect the public sector services (police, ambulance, emergency health care) to pick up the costs and the rest of the public to subsidise it, and then claim he is a “local entrepreneur serving the community”. might have worked in “better” times (still wasn’t fair overall) but not now.

I’m totally in favour of multicultural societies and positive migration, but when my ancestors came to the UK during similar times of austerity they worked hard in essential services, either healthcare, or retail or manufacturing and tried not to do overly controversial stuff and cause problems in the communities.

Bringing together large groups of young people, with other things such as drugs, booze, cars, sexual tension and gang allegiances in a venue made to try and make them consume more booze isn’t a trivial matter nor a constructive thing anywhere in the world these days, and many club owners (whether natives or immigrants) have found or are finding it out the hard way. Those what survive are much smaller businesses than many realise and even then their survival rates are a fraction of those of an accountant or an IT services company or a building firm.