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@photographthesun 536619 wrote:

depends how much the damage costs, what and how they are damaging etc

prison would just increase the cost to the public purse. But if they can put paint on a surface using chemicals they can be trained to remove it from there.

I understand why they might not be able to officially clean up trackside as they need to have the full drugs/alcohol tests and security vetting before they can legitimately go near transport infrastructure, but there is other public sector property they could clean up.

Also there is no reason why someone could not be a council painter and decorator for most of the year but do the fun projects every so often, and TBH if the councils had the sense to tap into this talent rather than subcontracting everything to private companies that might even provide a legitimate outlet for both artistic skills and also a useful day to day public service.

@photographthesun 536756 wrote:

Prison is expensive but for example if you take that bloke that “tagged” all the trains by scratching all the plastic windows and caused thousands and thousands of pounds worth of damage then prison seems more in line with his crime (depending on his history/record).

that would be classed as criminal damage straight off and in his case perhaps warrants secure mental health treatment of some sort (if he genuinely cannot realise his behaviour is wrong or harmful) but even then prison alone might not change the offenders behaviour.

The biggest problem is folk who attack infrastructure associated with public transport. Though harsh penalties are blamed on privatisation they existed when the railways were public and even then what is going on there is hardly activism, its an attempt to bypass the proper channels for getting art into the public eye (which are flawed in this country to be fair).

it would be cheaper to have art courses for the younger people which allow them to do this rather than paint graf in inappropriate places. TBH I think thats exactly what Ipswich is doing at least to some extent, but there is the counterargument that folk feel they are held to ransom by would be graffiti artists if its public funded (although it is now hard to tell apart much modern pop art from graffiti inspired styles).

@MR207 545093 wrote:

I can julst imagine a city where graffiti and street art wasn’t illegal. A city where everyone could draw whatever and wherever they wanted to. All the streets would be washed with all the colors and little sayings all over, that would be the coolest

at least some towns/cities in Northern Europe and even my own town is a bit like that. there is a old dockside where they only use the top part of it for the maritime operations and there are busted up old buildings at the bottom where they ran out of money to develop them, and there are tolerared graffit areas. Also on boards to hide empty and derelict buildings.

we do have rules about not putting any art too near road junctions. this us Ok though as many European countries are small, and the UK has many narrow roads with sharp turns and putting loads more stuff near the road will confuse people and cause a traffic hazard (if you have ever seen roads in the UK you iwll understand why!)

@iliesse 982854 wrote:

(hope uk people use the same terms as me and know the meaning of a tagg???)

yes, the words are exactly the same. Sometimes the word “piece” is used for a really good graffiti ; its meaning is the same as in french when referring to good artwork.