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i bet he regrets helping the CIA now. I wonder if he thought that the US would help protect him? There is nothing the US cn do for him now cos as the piece states the ties with pakistaini government are not exactly good at the moment. Poor dude, made me think about how exactly the Pakistani gov looked at the bin ladin issue. You would think that they would have been a bit more compasionate cos he helped get bin ladin. But on the other hand the US realy really shouldn’t have violated the sovereingty of pakistan with there school yard bully attitude it’s not surprising there pissed at them. Anyway thought i’d start of a topic on this.
A Pakistani doctor who helped the US track down Osama bin Laden has been convicted of high treason and sentenced to 33 years in prison.
Shakil Afridi was also ordered to pay a fine of about 3,500 US dollars (£2,200), said government official Nasir Khan.
If Afridi does not pay, he will spend another three and half years in prison.
Mr Khan is a government official in Pakistan’s Khyber tribal area, where Afridi was tried.
Afridi ran a vaccination programme for the CIA to collect DNA and verify bin Laden’s presence at the compound in the town of Abbottabad, where he was killed last May by US commandos.
US secretary of state Hillary Clinton has called for Afridi to be released, saying his work served Pakistani and American interests.
Afridi was detained some time after the raid on May 2 last year, but the start of his trial was never publicised.
“He was working for a foreign spy agency. We are looking after our national interests,” said a Pakistani intelligence official.
The US operation that killed bin Laden severely strained ties with Pakistan. The Pakistani government kicked out US military trainers and limited counter-terrorism co-operation with the CIA.
The relationship got worse in November when the US killed 24 Pakistani soldiers at two posts along the Afghan border, an attack that Washington said was an accident but the Pakistani army insisted was deliberate.
Just came across this too, lol
In January, the Pentagon began investigating whether the White House had shared classified information with Kathryn Bigelow, director of an upcoming film about the search for Osama bin Laden. Now, conservative watchdog organization Judicial Watch has obtained records that reveal President Obama’s Defense Department did provide Bigelow and screenwriter Mark Boal access to high-level information and resources — including a “planner, Operator and Commander” of the Navy SEAL team that successfully captured and killed bin Laden last year.
A Department of Defense meeting transcript reveals that the filmmaker learned the identity of the SEAL Team 6 commander, but was asked never to name him as a consultant “because…he shouldn’t be talking out of school.” (The commander’s name is blacked out in Judicial Watch’s document.) According to an internal CIA email, Bigelow and Boal also gained access to “the Vault,” a CIA building where the bin Laden raid was partially planned.
All in all, Judicial Watch obtained 153 pages of records from the Department of Defense, as well as 113 pages of records from the CIA. “These documents, which took nine months and a federal lawsuit to disgorge from the Obama administration, show that politically-connected filmmakers were giving extraordinary and secret access to bin Laden raid information, including the identity of a Seal Team Six leader,” Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton said in a statement.
In the wake of the controversy last summer, Bigelow and Boal released a joint statement: “Our upcoming film project about the decade long pursuit of bin Laden has been in the works for many years and integrates the collective efforts of three administrations, including those of Presidents Clinton, Bush, and Obama, as well as the cooperative strategies and implementation by the Department of Defense and the Central Intelligence Agency.“Indeed, the dangerous work of finding the world’s most wanted man was carried out by individuals in the military and intelligence communities who put their lives at risk for the greater good without regard for political affiliation. This was an American triumph, both heroic and non-partisan, and there is no basis to suggest that our film will represent this enormous victory otherwise.”
Bigelow’s drama, now titled Zero Dark Thirty, is scheduled to be released Dec. 19, 2012. At press time, representatives for the Oscar-winning director had not responded to requests for comment.
TBH I think he will be used as a political tool. Pakistan is a curious country, whist a fairly hardcore Islamic nation its culturally still close to Britain, however they have US style gun laws (unusual for an Asian nation although the Phillipines is similar) and of course trade and business ties with both nations. They also have a fairly notorious elite military force which the Pentagon are unsure of whose side they are on. So if he is a spy, they could simply have tortured and killed him there and then.
The legal system may well still be the same as Britains which would mean that just because he got 33 years doesn’t mean he will do all of them. its not uncommon for folk to be given this sort of sentence, then let free at Ramadan a few years later. They do this in other Asian nations fairly regularly.
Really? I thought Dr Who busied himself with the Cybertrons and end of the world/universe type stuff.
@BioTech 480416 wrote:
Really? I thought Dr Who busied himself with the Cybertrons and end of the world/universe type stuff.
would be even more amusing if the next Doctor was a Pakistani from somewhere like Bolton (and way cheaper for the BBC and license payer as well as its nearer Salford)
Well, I guess a lot of the Pak administration is running scared. A lot of their dirty laundry is now in CIA hands and they want to be seen to be “fighting the Crusaders”. If not, they’re at risk of being the target of a suicide attack.
The doctor might well be safer in custody than loose in his practise. Snag is with do-gooders – they think that just because they do the right thing, thugs will spontaneously leave them alone.
Fact is, thugs and do-gooders think differently. I mean, I try to be a do-gooder, but I’m not so convinced of my own immortality that I’ll go up solo, naked, against a SEAL team with just a table leg in my hands.
@BioTech 480416 wrote:
Really? I thought Dr Who busied himself with the Cybertrons and end of the world/universe type stuff.
rofl
@Pat McDonald 480450 wrote:
Well, I guess a lot of the Pak administration is running scared. A lot of their dirty laundry is now in CIA hands and they want to be seen to be “fighting the Crusaders”. If not, they’re at risk of being the target of a suicide attack.
The doctor might well be safer in custody than loose in his practise.
this is a good point. PK’s lax gun laws mean its as full of sketchy angry men with guns as the USA, some who will just kill him not because they are working for any agency but they want to see justice done and take it into their own hands (which is what happens when every man is allowed a gun). incidentally I am not a anti-gun pacifist hippy, in fact I have an interest in guns as in my generation it was the manly thing to do, but I accept why some countries have stronger laws about their use and personally would not want to live in any nation where I felt I genuinely needed a pistol at all times for protection.
they didn’t really find bin laden did they? i feel naturally inclined to assume any american achievement is fake, just another totalitarian tiptoe
@know_hope 480563 wrote:
they didn’t really find bin laden did they? i feel naturally inclined to assume any american achievement is fake, just another totalitarian tiptoe
well brother the sad truth is, we will never no the truth.
@thelog 480587 wrote:
well brother the sad truth is, we will never no the truth.
its hard to know the truth when you’re close to the moment… in anything. but if you look to the past then it may give a clue. america do like a bit of jackanory
@know_hope 480591 wrote:
its hard to know the truth when you’re close to the moment… in anything. but if you look to the past then it may give a clue. america do like a bit of jackanory
Isn’t he the guy who insists the ruling classes are actually shape shifting lizards? It’s funny, it’s so close to the truth. ‘Cos we’re all descended from lizards. We all have the old capacity of being cold blooded ruthless heartless bastards.
Being warm blooded and mammallian, we can also be sharing and generous and forgiving.
Your choice.
@Pat McDonald 480625 wrote:
Isn’t he the guy who insists the ruling classes are actually shape shifting lizards? It’s funny, it’s so close to the truth. ‘Cos we’re all descended from lizards. We all have the old capacity of being cold blooded ruthless heartless bastards.
i kinda thought he pulled out the shape shifting lizards just to throw people off and make them think he’s nuts… you know, just in case he got too close to the truth and people started noticing… i’m one of them, i think he’s nuts, he was a goalie lol… but he can be very insightful imo… cant help but love him though
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