Thanks for the tip!
One of my colleague told me as well about the bus during my lunch break. But I am still interested in going in a vehicle and meeting new people. I have just arrived in Malaga and trying to meet some party orientated people.
That it is on or not anyway I am going to check the place out and after all I don’t care what the police say all i know is that I want to go to a party as it makes a while that I haven’t done an outdoor party-was in London b-fore. and anyway the sun is out and we have to aprovecharlo.
c ya
Absolutely! I used to live in Brixton for a few years b4 moving here a couple of years ago. Living in Marbella right now and your right, car would b fab but I don´t know anyone with car. Plus I have feeling hat I will be only one going out of all my mates! Let me know if you want to hook up…
I’m gettin to malaga on friday mate…went to granada last month from there…visited orgiva 2
its about 8 euros on the bus…2hrs…to granada…then another 4 euros n one hour to malaga…! but there’s probably a direct bus which’d be better!
there is a direct bus from granada(bus station not train station)to orgiva.in orgiva u can meet a lot of people for dragon fest,out of markets and bars.
I can’t get to granada before 8pm and there isn’t any direct bus after. So if anyone has a lift from granada…
Is the dragon festival on this year?
Is the dragon festival on this year? (2005)
I think it should be on. There was a bit of commotion last year about whether or not it was gonna go ahead, the cops were on the case and all kinds of hearsay was flyin about. Flying about was definitley the case as I know the Dragon kicked off a storm! they will never stop ze music! let it live long long long! Ahem… anyway, erm, in answar to your question – yeps, I reckon it will be happening and the trip to Orgiva is worth it, you could always go snowboarding or skiing in stunning Sierra Nevada if it all goes bottoms up….
I would hope any problems last year were a special case – there was after all the terrorist bombing in Madrid around the same time the dragon festival happened.
It is perhaps understandable cops would become more jittery about any large movement of people after such an event – anyway EU policing guidelines have classed “pop festivals” as potential security risks since the early 1990s, long before 9/11, iraq war or any other recent incidents.
This was initiated by Britain’s former Home Secretary (Interior Minister) Michael Howard (now leader of an opposition party), and backed up by his successor Jack Straw despite a change of Government, ,and appears to be shaping policy across all 25 EU nations even today!
Ironically, when a licensed festival happens in Britain some police forces actually invoke a form of the same “major incident protocol” you would get if there was a terrorist attack or contamination! (worse still, they pass the costs of this extra policing to the organisers which is why festival tickets are so expensive)
Of course I do not agree with this level of paranoia – all that is needed is a basic deployment of appropriate emergency service resources for health and safety reasons – but it is however a sad truth of modern European society that there are a fair number of sociopaths and groups of extreme people about who become very angry when they see people from a very diverse collection of races, genders and backgrounds getting together and having fun.
There certainly have been occasions where people (mostly from extreme right-wing groups) have attempted to disrupt festivals in various manners – In Britain we have even had a rogue unit of the regular Army attempting to cause problems at a large festival in my city – allegedly as a reprisal attack because they suspected the organisers of having links to the Irish separatist groups.
Thankfully these incidents are usually just low-level crime, violence and criminal damage at the events rather than major attacks (although a few years ago in Russia some bombs were exploded on the outskirts of a festival).
It is something that those who organise events are (or should be) aware of, and has been going on for 30+ years now – yet organisers have dealt with this problem themselves.
Organisers, of both licensed and free festivals also nowadays do everything possible both to prevent conflict with locals and to ensure that those attending events do not fight amongst themselves.
Unfortunately, human nature dictates that in any large group you will always find two or more people who do not agree with one another, and there is always the chance they may use violence to settle their differences – but those who organise large group events such as festivals are usually vigilant. Sometimes incidents happen; but they are usually stopped, and people (hopefully) learn from their mistakes.
In other words, we can and do look after ourselves and have been doing so for many years now!
If the EU authorities use “fear of violence/terrorism” to stop festivals and peoples right to assembly, then they have actually given in to terrorists or supported the use of violence, rather than making people safer!
You’re definitely right about that one. The terrorist attacks of last year were a perfect pretext for the policia local to put the stops out. Guess political instability and policia paranoia go hand in hand at times like this.
I hope that the future of such events are revolutionised in terms of gaining the assistance and support that is deserved as opposed to conflict and hostility from bureaucratic organisations.
The Synergy Project at SE1 in London is a good example I think. It was a positive ambience with a view to promoting a fulfilled living in an ego-consumerist world. 🙂 The sooner government bodies begin to realise and accept that it is their very own rules and regulations corrupting and manipulating society rather than encouraging its well being (as we all know), the better.
I was also positively blown away when I heard about the Rocket festival. I do believe that such events will help us to work towards a positive breakthrough for future large group events. As Gen Lighting says, there will be certain groups of people who will not be able to accept the positivity that is really being promoted through large group events. Changing the minds of such sociopaths will not be easily achievable; but I hope that we can all work towards getting laws and regulations changed to support the cause of bringing music and large groups of people within minimal trouble and safe environments.
do you have any links for the synergy project? this sounds interesting and would be worth advertising here…
i live in orgiva and can confirm…..nothing. nobody ever knows these days what is happening with the dragon til it actually happens. in the past couple of years there has been massive police presence and hecticness right up til the last minute until…..loads of sound systems and punters arrive and the guardia have to let it go ahead because they just cannot out number the party people. so theres only one way to make it happen. turn up.
Scatty fuzz-ball must be my middle name as I forgot to log in when I wrote message about Synergy! Anyway, here’s the link for Synergy: http://www.thesynergyproject.org. The next Synergy is in London on 17th Feb. Hopefully will be making my way down there to review. I think that the concept is fantastic. The last Synergy project dedicated various rooms at the SE1 venue to alternative arts and culture as well as world-music. It’s also a great opportunity for creative individuals to unleash their artistic talents and inspire each other. It shows all those bureaucratic misfits the intelligence and inspiration behind such large event organisation and that we’re NOT just a bunch of intoxicated, witless bunch of crusties (as can be stereotyped) without a clue about the world!
thanks for the link. I certainly agree the idea is brilliant (naturally I would like to see this extended to wider variations of urban music though – I sometimes get the idea (perhaps incorrectly) its mostly the psy-trance scene which is more likely to do stuff like this…
working in the public sector I can understand what they are trying to do – in part address the bureaucrats in their own language (if I copy the text onto a word document it looks like one of my work papers 😀 ) although I was sceptical about the “mission statement” (or even the use of the word “synergy” which I recall first being used years ago for some corporate IT project by British Telecom!) when I read it in full those concepts and procedures are something all progressive organisations can learn from when organising events….
Your right about the fact that it tends to be psy-trance organisations that organise these kinds of events… T´would be good to see other urban music collaborators doing similar events. I do think that the Rocket Festival is a good one to go to – there´s going to be wide range of urban music (not just psy-trance!) and the incorporation of the Andalucian culture speaks volumes in itself. I live in Andalucia, so that will definitley be another mission to go on this year! Play the game, I guess that´s the motto of the Synergy quest (as you do in most aspects of this life – work related bureaucracy being a prime suspect), use whatever it takes to get the message across I suppose. Remember, all those psy-trance collobarators are androids in disguise using technology-related terms to brainwash the powers of supremacy! (otherwise known as reptiles from alien-ated world…). 🙂
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