Well right now looks like the whole site is being evicted day 2 of police hassle boring. Still lets get on with christmas then yes we will have meetings! best bit THE MEETINGS fabulous entertainment every time can,t wait.
STILL BUSINESS AS USUAL HERE SEE YOU IN MARCH COME EARLY WITH YOUR CREATIVE IDEAS LOVE NESS XXX
Si es verdad que Los Cigarrones quizás no sea el mejor sitio para un festival, pero lo que han conseguido las 10-20 personas quiénes dicen que no lo quieren es terminar con el proceso que había empezado durante los últimos unos de intentar organizar el Dragón.
Ahora no hay organización ninguna pero llegará de todas formas gente con sus soundsystems, camiones y carpas de toda Europa, como siempre ha pasado.
El ano pasado tuvimos aparcacoches (nos faltaban las radios) gente recogiendo basura y recogida de basura, tuvimos servicios, teniamos 4x4s de guardia listos para cruzar el río en caso de emergencia y recaudamos dinero para cubrir los gastos del 2008 y hasta guardamos un fondo para el 2009.
De ninguna manera fue perfecto pero fue un comienzo para un buen porvenir.
Si deseas ayudar con lo que empezamos el ano pasado por favor, haz una donación o ofrece tus servicios como voluntario al builder(@)dragon-festival.com.
Cigarrones may not be the best place for a festival. But what these 10-20 or so people have done by saying they don’t want it is to stop the process that had begun over the last couple of years of trying to organise the festival.
Now there is no organisation whatsoever and people and rigs will come from all over Europe anyway.
Maybe it would have been better to work together to find a solution.
Last year we had stewards (we needed radios), we had first aid, we had rubbish collection, we had toilets and we did have 4×4’s on standby to get out across the river if there was an emergency and we raised money to cover most costs and still have some in the pot for 2009.
It was in no way perfect, but it was a start.
If you would like to help with what was started last year, please donate or volunteer to help by email to builder(at)dragon-festival.com
ONE weekend of every year is the dragon fest, just one. i do feel sorry for the people who live there and suffer… but for gods sake theres enough rock to build a castle never mind BUILD YOURSELVES A WALL ROUND THAT WHICH YOU WISH TO PROTECT.
My family and i have members of a certain teepee community trudging illegally through our land EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR. we have an acequia so we cannot cordone it off. So instead of joining the local facists who want said community removed, we have made our house and the things we cherish as safe as we can as we have been robbed. i may not want to live like these fredom fighters but i support their cause because ISNT THIS WHY WE ALL LEFT THE UK?
We were sick of a SELFISH MINORITY HAVING POWER over everyone else. Now the residents of tijola and ciggarones have allegedly denounced the ayudamiento and the guardia for allowing the community of PEOPLE on the riverbed and in doing so hope to stop the dragon fest ruining their perfect little expat lives ONE WEEKEND A YEAR. So everybody, the latest is that the police have started to evict people from the site of ciggarones, which has existed for more than 12 years. Just before CHRISTMAS, while it is FREEZING, without warning, FAMILIES are being EVICTED because of their own countrymen and women. Tijola and ThoseofCiggarones i hope youre proud of yourselves because you make me sick!!!!! you are the shitty selfish bourgiosie that i left my homeland to get away from.
ive seen organised festivals run worse than the dragon. i think there is a bit more to be done to make it cleaner but dont forget most of the punters are spanish – they will make it happen and they are the ones who also need to be told-‘shit in a plastic bag and put it in the bin’ and ‘take your rubbish bin to a refuse site, dont use the floor’ . all this fighting amongst us whove chosen to come and live here is futile…..
Now if anyone wonders why is Dragon so disorganised… this is the typical Cigarrones Dragon meeting:
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hey anyone fancy donating 300 euros to buy a really flash trampoline for the kids area xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hey anyone who fancies partying new year is on in ciggy
Hola,soy nueva en este foro,solo quiero dar mi apoño para la celebracion del dragon 2009,espero que se celebre y que todos juntos podamos disfrutar un año mas de la fiesta,la gente,el buenroyo y la naturaleza de esas tierras…que un año mas demos la bienvenida a la primavera como corresponde y que pasen rapido este par de meses ya que la espera se hace infinita…
un saludo a todos
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So does anyone have any idea if it is likely to go ahead or not?
I am hoping it does, came for the first time last year and had a ball!
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I for one have donated through the site and will be more than willing to do some stewarding and rubbish clean up. and know that many of my mates will do the same. this is what dragon needs the same as any free pARTY, that is self-governed. last year I had a flight back for work but cleaned the bit where we were before leaving and this year will have my truck and be able to stay for a few day and clean up.
we have a [T]emporary [A]utnomous [A]rt fundraiser arranged in brighton before dragon and i’m sure we can spare some funds and will happily add more to the pot
what will happens? Pleaseeeeeeeeeee :crazy::crazy::crazy:
Yo creo que el problema está en el ayuntamiento y en su alcalde del PP
Adolfo Martín Padial (PP) , si fuera de izquierda unida o de otro partido politico, estas cosas no pasaban… ( rgiva PSOE insta PP obligue dimitir alcalde Orgiva auditora cuentas municipales )
Acaso no hay fiestas populares en toda andalucia?
No creen que son suficientes personas como para disponer de una serie de medidas higienicas y recojida de basuras?
de todas formas no es malo es conocer lo que la organizacion propone y colaborar en la medida de lo posible, en fin y al cabo el Dragon somos tod@sraaa
Dragon en Orgiva ya que ese espiritu hay que conservarlo , ir a otro sitio es plantearse otra cosa distinta.-…….
I think the problem lies in the municipality and its mayor PP
Adolfo Martin Padial (PP), if united leftist political party or another, these things were not …
(Orgiva PSOE insta PP obligue dimitir alcalde Orgiva auditora cuentas municipales)
Perhaps no festivities throughout andalucia?
Not enough people think they are to have a series of hygienic measures and collect garbage?
still not knowing what is bad is that the proposed organization and work as far as possible, at the end of the Dragon are tod @ s
Dragon Orgiva and in that spirit that we must preserve it, go somewhere else is something other than raise .-…
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be cool my friends!! greeting from spaindeejays collective!!
Hi everyone. great to see so much interest in the dragon. lot of valid points, some people get it some don’t. if free means 10000 people coming to cigy, shitting, dumping rubish, attacking neighbours, and treating the area as a shit heap it then fuck off.i started it in my field 13 years ago to bring people together, break down barriers and celebrate the coming of spring etc. i run a system and do free parties when i can which has given me the gift of partial patience. to all the 24/7 crew ( tribal funk runs for min 5 days each time 24/7), never seen anyone of you lot 2 weeks later on your knees picking up rubbish and human shit. the festival is a microcosm of life and one thing is TOTALLY CLEAR and that is peoples inability to sort their shit out, wheither it IS shit,piss,rubbish or general stuff. Don’t dump on cigy as it isn’t a quarry as some dick said and one of the reasons is we all stood in front of the fucking riot squad to protect the area which is more than 10000 other people didn’t do. i want the dragon to continue as i believe strongly in it but if it means wiping the arse of 10000 people who can’t, then take your shit away, you don’t deserve to enjoy such a beautiful place and event
Well, as i can see there are lot of opinions in here, and most of them want the festival to go ahead. just to remind, that the shit is fertilizer, isnt it? well, i understand that it is not very nice have the shit near your house, or in your garden ( people who live in cities have also on the street, in that case from dogs); but be aware that it is only shit and in one week is totally gone.
i think that the festival is too important or too big to stop it (i think you could understand what i mean_ im spanish and my english is not the best one_)
SO I RECOMEND THE PEOPLE WHO IS AGAINST SOME THINGS OF THE FESTIVAL ( BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO BE AGAINST THE FESTIVAL, ONLY SOME THINGS LIKE SHIT, HEALTH RISKS…) TO KEEP THEIR ENERGIES TO MAKE THE PEOPLE AWARE ABOUT THE BAD THINGS OF THE FESTIVAL TO FIX IT.
BUEN ROLLITO! and as im use to see and listen, PROHIBIDO PROHIBIR. CONCIENCIACION, EDUCACION, RESPETO…CON EL TIEMPO TODO LLEGA, Y A ESTE FESTIVAL TAMBIEN LLEGARA. POR MI PARTE YA LLEGO, Y VEO OTRA MUCHA GENTE TAMBIEN RESPETUOSA.
ey, but put ground on the shit… i supposed that most of the people knew how to shit on the ground, othervise it could not be very healthy …
enjoy!
i think that the festival is too important or too big to stop it (i think you could understand what i mean_ im spanish and my english is not the best one_)
SO I RECOMEND THE PEOPLE WHO IS AGAINST SOME THINGS OF THE FESTIVAL ( BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO BE AGAINST THE FESTIVAL, ONLY SOME THINGS LIKE SHIT, HEALTH RISKS…) TO KEEP THEIR ENERGIES TO MAKE THE PEOPLE AWARE ABOUT THE BAD THINGS OF THE FESTIVAL TO FIX IT.
BUEN ROLLITO! and as im use to see and listen, PROHIBIDO PROHIBIR. CONCIENCIACION, EDUCACION, RESPETO…CON EL TIEMPO TODO LLEGA, Y A ESTE FESTIVAL TAMBIEN LLEGARA. POR MI PARTE YA LLEGO, Y VEO OTRA MUCHA GENTE TAMBIEN RESPETUOSA.
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