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  • @MC G-Tek 494301 wrote:

    Same mate, I get so much shit from my mates for driving like a pensioner, but I can’t be arsed risking getting points on my licence & bumping my insurance up.

    yep that’s why I’m glad I left learning again until I’d grown up a bit and moved area and also got (some) of the desire to party hard out of my system as I’m gonna still be on 2 years probation whenever I pass irrespective of age –

    its the point I was making on that other thread about parties – what some constabularies do is put ANPR flag on every car seen at a rave…

    Those drivers blatantly flouting traffic laws are often dealt with there and then but another trick is to wait until “comedown days” like Tuesday / Wednesday and then use the black rats (RPU) to check the drivers what were at the rave for their driving standards, and if they are making mistakes from sleep deprivation or worse DUI they are hauled up.

    A lot of my younger friends lost their licenses months after getting them this way and they were often middle class uni kids whose “needed a car for uni” and their parents had paid a lot towards their driving – so they got in proper shit and this is the sort of family dispute what gets all ravers judged…

    @General Lighting 494304 wrote:

    yep that’s why I’m glad I left learning again until I’d grown up a bit and moved area and also got (some) of the desire to party hard out of my system as I’m gonna still be on 2 years probation whenever I pass irrespective of age

    Jesus mate, it’s like you’re relaying my own life back to me – all of the above is applicable to me man, freaky! Just got out of my probationary period a few months ago as it happens, not gonna make a difference to how I drive though.

    Yep the ANPR stuff isn’t gonna go away. The kit made in the UK (often in Wales) is that good the Chinese traffic cops buy it from us!

    I’ve been told by folk you wouldn’t expect to be supportive like travellers that it actually has made the cops less prejudiced as they are being fed with actual checked targets rather than simply “stopping people for driving whilst a hippy / coloured / playing music” and they have so many targets that if your driving isn’t really bad you will be left alone..

    @General Lighting 494311 wrote:

    Yep the ANPR stuff isn’t gonna go away. The kit made in the UK (often in Wales) is that good the Chinese traffic cops buy it from us!

    I’ve been told by folk you wouldn’t expect to be supportive like travellers that it actually has made the cops less prejudiced as they are being fed with actual checked targets rather than simply “stopping people for driving whilst a hippy / coloured / playing music” and they have so many targets that if your driving isn’t really bad you will be left alone..

    Yarp. It’s definitely helped in the sense of stopping traffic cops from targeting people based on stereotypes (or ‘profiling’ as they like to call it, same thing). At least it’s the people who deserve to get caught who actually get caught now, i.e. those driving without insurance, twockers etc. Makes the job a hell of a lot easier for the cops & doesn’t create bad feelings between the cops & certain groups of people who previously (& probably rightly) felt harassed.

    There’s nothing stopping you taking lessons after you’ve passed your test if you want to get used to petrol as well, but tbh after you’ve passed and driven about a bit, it doesn’t take long to adapt to a new car.

    ANPR = Big Brother, How long til they just ‘chip’ us all at birth an log our every movement

    Insurance companies used to say all our premiums were higher because of uninsured drivers…. so how come ANPR everywhere hasnt reduced premiums ??? Now they say premiums are high because of ‘no win no fee’ claim companies…. what because insurance companies now have to pay out what they always should have been but used to wriggle out of.

    Has anyone here ever tried to make an insurance claim ???

    I did when my old 309 was stolen, the value you state when in insuring increases you premium, but they wont pay out that amount, mine was insured for £2000, think I finally got about a £850 payout after arguing for months over their even lower first offers, why ? Because the MOT was almost run out and there is no way to prove the condition of a stolen car, then afterwards for the next 5 years my premiums were so much higher due to having a claim on record ( even though the no-claims was protected ) that the increased premiums cost me even more than the £850 they eventually paid out !!!

    Fully Comp car insurance is a huge scam and ANPR is a way of forcing you to buy a worthless product

    My advice is stick to 3rd party only insurance and under value your car, anything above that will just cost you more for no real benefit

    CCTV was deployed in the late 1960s in London and the cops and Home Office first trialled ANPR in 1972, the year of my birth. the tech paper in which it was explained was only releaed on FOI a few years ago.

    The only reason it didn’t get deployed back then was computer technology hadn’t advanced enough, so the fast patrol car could only do 40 mph because of being weighed down by the computer kit

    also the digital transmission got into the AM radio and blew a rasperry into the ears of the coppers via the telephone handsets :laugh_at:

    I worked in insurance in Reading and it was a scummy business, the customers were treated like scum, the staff behaved like scum and it was only drugs what kept people sane. Yes they have all sorts of ways of reducing claims and those what complain to the press are monitored and have their claims halved and all sorts, if you are para about the govt what private companies or individuals can or will do when determined enough is 10 times more scarey (though its coming to light due to them media enquiries)

    at work they just buy crappy old vehicles for fleet cars (even the desperate wouldn’t bother with stealing them) and the cheapest (but legal) insurance for a group of drivers – I’m actually insured to use the fleet cars even as a learner provided I don’t break the terms of a provisional license which is why I asked the question 😉

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