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There is no evidence that ecstasy causes brain damage, according to one of the largest studies into the effects of the drug. Too many previous studies made over-arching conclusions from insufficient data, say the scientists responsible for the research, and the drug’s dangers have been greatly exaggerated.
The finding will shock campaigners who have claimed ecstasy poses a real risk of triggering brain damage. They have argued that it can induce memory loss, decrease cognitive performance and has long-lasting effects on behaviour.
But experts who have argued that the drug is relatively safe welcomed the new paper. “I always assumed that, when properly designed studies were carried out, we would find ecstasy does not cause brain damage,” said Professor David Nutt, who was fired as chair of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs by Alan Johnson, then home secretary, for publicly stating alcohol and tobacco were more harmful than ecstasy.
The study was carried out by a team led by Professor John Halpern of Harvard Medical School and published in the journal Addiction last week. Funded by a $1.8m grant from the US National Institute on Drug Abuse, it was launched specifically to avoid methodological drawbacks that have bedevilled previous attempts to pinpoint whether or not ecstasy users suffer brain damage.
Ecstasy – or 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine, or MDMA – came into widespread use in the 1980s when taking it was linked to raves and the playing of dance music. Its symptoms include euphoria, a sense of intimacy with others and diminished anxiety and depression. In the US alone, more than 12 million have taken it.
But the taking of ecstasy has also been linked to damage to the central nervous system and research in recent years has suggested that long-term changes to emotional states and behaviour have been triggered by consumption of the drug. Possession of it has been made an offence in most western nations.
However, Halpern was sharply critical of the quality of the research that had linked ecstasy to brain damage. “Too many studies have been carried out on small populations, while overarching conclusions have been drawn from them,” he said. For a start, some previous research has studied users who were taken from a culture dominated by all-night dancing, which thus exposed these individuals to sleep and fluid deprivation – factors that are themselves known to produce long-lasting cognitive effects. Non-users were not selected from those from a similar background, which therefore skewed results. In addition, past studies have not taken sufficient account of the fact that ecstasy users take other drugs or alcohol that could affect cognition or that they may have suffered intellectual impairment before they started taking ecstasy. In Halpern’s study only ecstasy users who took no other drugs and who had suffered no previous impairment were selected.
The resulting experiment whittled down 1,500 potential participants to 52 selected users, whose cognitive abilities matched those of a group of 59 non-users. “We even took hair samples of participants to test whether they were telling the truth about their drug and alcohol habits,” said Halpern. “Essentially we compared one group of people who danced and raved and took ecstasy with a similar group of individuals who danced and raved but who did not take ecstasy. When we did that, we found that there was no difference in their cognitive abilities.” In other words, previous studies highlighted problems triggered by other factors, such as use of other drugs or drink, or sleep deprivation.
But the drug still posed risks, he said. “Ecstasy consumption is dangerous because illegally made pills often contain contaminants that can have harmful side-effects.”
Ecstasy does not wreck the mind, study claims | Society | The Observer
Hear, hear!
Was stupid nonsense knocking around some years ago:
Three pills and your brain scan resembles that of a psychopath..!
Ecstasy* users’ brains are unable to develop ‘valid’ new connections and are ‘spent’
Ergo: Ecstasy* fucks your brain like no other drug in the history of the world
Oh Riley? My vocabulary is improving all the time, even at my (ahem) age. Although, I am, and always have been, an absolute bookworm. Truth is, there was never such an ‘anti’ campaign as there was for ecstasy*. Why was that, may we ponder..?
* Although have to admit: Ecstasy* is one of the few words I am unable to spell properly without looking. Always want to replace the final ‘s’ for a ‘c’. Due to Latin education at school, I reckon; not the mind-bending, spirit-fucking effects of (hang on a sec; ok, got it) ecstasy*.
*You’ve gotta love it. :love:
@parrotfish 420736 wrote:
Ecstasy does not wreck the mind, study claims | Society | The Observer
fucking wrecks my mind!:wink::laugh_at::hopeless::cry:
i don’t love it, doesn’t do anything for me. the look is what i hate; sweating, gurning, chain smoking & looking like a sociopath
Not needing to argue here nn-Gaza but: Your signature..? Enabling ‘change’ and all that? The ‘look’ is superficial..
@nn-Gazatryptamine 426912 wrote:
i don’t love it, doesn’t do anything for me. the look is what i hate; sweating, gurning, chain smoking & looking like a sociopath
I love that look. raaa
@Elysiumfield 426908 wrote:
Hear, hear!
Was stupid nonsense knocking around some years ago:
Three pills and your brain scan resembles that of a psychopath..!
Ecstasy* users’ brains are unable to develop ‘valid’ new connections and are ‘spent’
Ergo: Ecstasy* fucks your brain like no other drug in the history of the worldOh Riley? My vocabulary is improving all the time, even at my (ahem) age. Although, I am, and always have been, an absolute bookworm. Truth is, there was never such an ‘anti’ campaign as there was for ecstasy*. Why was that, may we ponder..?
* Although have to admit: Ecstasy* is one of the few words I am unable to spell properly without looking. Always want to replace the final ‘s’ for a ‘c’. Due to Latin education at school, I reckon; not the mind-bending, spirit-fucking effects of (hang on a sec; ok, got it) ecstasy*.
*You’ve gotta love it. :love:
:laugh_at:
Quality!
It looks like it needs a bit more improvement if you ask me.
@nn-Gazatryptamine 426912 wrote:
i don’t love it, doesn’t do anything for me. the look is what i hate; sweating, gurning, chain smoking & looking like a sociopath
oh – thats me pretty much every day
lol
@Elysiumfield 426917 wrote:
Not needing to argue here nn-Gaza but: Your signature..? Enabling ‘change’ and all that? The ‘look’ is superficial..
The look is rough….
what’s enabling change got to do with MDMA/Pills?
@p0ly 427169 wrote:
The look is rough….
what’s enabling change got to do with MDMA/Pills?
sweet fuck all my ol’ mate
I fully agree that Ecstasy does not “wreck the mind” but the scientists in these most recent studies seem to be mostly investigating about “cognitive ability” which I think is such stuff like being able to learn things such as languages, being able to do hard sums, building or programming computers etc..they are also checking that the physical bit of the brain is not damaged.
they do not appear to be putting as much emphasis on the emotional impact of regularly using this stuff.
it is also perfectly possible for a sociopath or someone with other personality disorders to be very intelligent, even to succeed well at work (often at the expense of others) – and there still remains a risk that even good MDMA can cause near psychotic behaviour on the comedown – also as most users are young this doesn’t mix that well with existing “growing pains”…
Unless it exacerbates pre-existing mental health issues its not permanent but it does have an impact on other people (particularly partners, parents, work colleagues) and TBH I have got the impression it is this which leads to much more of a backlash against the drug than the minor risk of people dropping dead or having other individual health problems.
@p0ly 427169 wrote:
The look is rough….
Thats why nightclubs are dark
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