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Timeline:
9:00 – 11:00PM: 4 pints beer
1145PM: 125mg mdma bombed
1215AM: Half an E? pill taken from bloke in queue
0100AM: additional 125mg mdma bombed
0140AM: Marijuana smoked
Okay, this guy who i’ll call F and a few of his mates were going to a drum and bass/dubstep night in birmingham, and had some crystal form MDMA for the night. They crushed the crystals into powder and wrapped it in rizlas to form bombs.
He started drinking beers at about 9PM; everyone was looking forward to the night, the vibe was nice. F got through 4 pints of beer by the time they arrived at the event, about 1145PM. At this point, he and a few friends dropped their first bomb of MDMA.
The queue was pretty long, so they got chatting to some randomers for a while. One particular guy who didn’t seem in a great way (about 45 years old, probably too much alcohol) showed us some small white pills he had (maybe 6mm diameter, 5mm tall) and said he was afraid to take them on his own. He said he’d break a pill in half, and take one half if F did the same with the other half afterwards. F was slightly intoxicated by the alcohol, and (yes very stupidly) agreed and dropped half of this pill at about 1215AM, thought nothing of it.
They got inside the rave and went for a cigarette, after the smoke the MDMA was setting in and everyone felt like going to dance. After dancing for about 45 minutes and peaking on the first bomb of MDMA, F and some others decided to drop another similar bomb. They continued dancing until about 0130AM, then figured it’d be a good idea to grab a pint of water and smoke a blunt outside.
They went outside passed the blunt around, having a great time. Everyone found socialising very easy and were all vibing to the music. At about 0145AM they went back inside, F particularly was loving it, felt absolutely great.
This is where it gets ugly, at about 0155AM completely out of nowhere, F started getting really scared and freaked out and said he had to go outside. He didnt really seem to know where he was going but eventually found his way onto the smokers terrace. He realised he was in a bad way, he noticed everyone around him was leaving trails behind them, and people who were talking weren’t saying real words.
He stood on his own for about 30 minutes, with increasingly bad waves of paranoia and anxiousness spreading through him. He was getting really bad tunnel vision, the tunnel would get smaller and smaller and F thought that if the tunnel completely filled his vision, he would die. He was very scared at this point and began to wonder what was in the pill he had taken.
He eventually recieved a text from his friend and replied that they should come outside. They report F was looking very pale, with very little focus in his eyes and he looked in a bad way. The buzz from the MDMA had not completely left him, however the tunnel vision came back in waves and everytime it returned the feeling of death would also return. Along with rapidly changing body temperature, F was having huge trouble moving his limbs, he opted to go for a walk so he didnt completely freeze up which was very difficult for him.
Even in his poor state he seemed to be handling himself well, he was able to communicate with the people around him who could tell he was in a bad way. He spoke to a guy who was often around the venue, and told this guy he’d taken half a mysterious pill. The guy told F that there’s been some dodgy pills around lately, and a lot of people had been hitting the deck, vomiting, and then remaining almost motionless for several hours with a puckering look in their faces.
F remained outside on the smokers terrace until about 0430AM, smoked a joint, and finally felt ready to go inside. He went through to the toilet, had a piss, then went to dance. The trippiness had subsided a lot, the paranoia and tunnel vision completely. This lasted about an hour, and F had the time of his life dancing to the music. Then again, the tripping and paranoia returned so F decided he would go outside the front and wait for his friends out there.
They came out, and they all made their way home on a minibus. As F was on his way home, he kept seeing buildings and signs that weren’t there, he saw a girl sitting on a guys lap in the front of the bus who wasn’t actually there. Finally he got home, and had a very poor sleep between about 0830AM and 1500PM.
F describes this as a horrible experience, and hopes that this accurate report will help him find out what he has taken. He’s done a fair amount of research and suspects PMA.
Thanks for reading.
There’s so many goddam RCs about these days I guess it could any one, or a mix of a number of things, but the long come-up, high body temp and tunnel vision seem consistent with effects of PMA (from what I’ve read), and it’s quite likely that would find its way into a pill. I don’t know of many other things that could have such an effect from half a pill except 2c’s and other psychedelics…and it sounds like it wasn’t a very ‘psychedelic’ experience.
Glad your mate didn’t take another half!
We decided to go down to london to see fabriclive 55 this weekend, F decided that he didn’t want to stop doing MDMA because of one bad experience so decided to have one 125mg bomb for the night. He took the bomb about 1135PM and was feeling nervous and anxious about the whole experience. At about 0130AM he was still feeling anxious but felt like dancing, things got a bit intense so he went out for a cigarette on his own at about 0200AM.
On the smokers terrace he completely zoned out for about 2 minutes, blurred vision, no idea what was going on. He was thinking that the same thing was happening, but it wore off after 10 minutes and now he was fully up on the MDMA and the rest of the night was awesome.
He went back to a mate’s to smoke some weed and sleep, woke up at 300PM the next day and smoked a bit more weed. No comedown at all from the MDMA. Now I can’t explain what happened next, neither can he, neither can anyone we’ve spoken to. Sudden waves of paranoia and tunnel vision came across him, he went to try and drink some water, sat back down and was back in the (PMA?) trip. The only difference was that this time he was able to walk around fine (apart from uncontrollable shaking in arms and legs) but the tunnel vision, random body temperatures and jaw movements, huge panic attacks and moments of anxiety were just as intense as before. He looked in the mirror, his face was pretty pale and his pupils were huge, he looked absolutely wired. This lasted about 2 hours then slowly wore off.
I don’t know what this coulda been, perhaps a flashback? Anyone know what the hell went on?
Sounds like your friend either has some mental/physical problems with drugs or you have some really fucking awful drugs on your hand.
Mby he’s alergic to mdma? (did any one else take the same stuff?)
It sounds like he’s suffering from cannabis psychosis. You say he smoked cannabis before each attack, I reckon that’s to blame. Can’t be the mdma otherwise you’d all suffer from similar effects. Might be the half a pill but that wouldn’t account for the fabric trip.
Next time you go raving ask him to not smoke any weed that day and night and see how he is. If he still suffers then we can eliminate weed as a possible cause.
Let us know how things go mate.
@GiantMidget 419029 wrote:
It sounds like he’s suffering from cannabis psychosis. You say he smoked cannabis before each attack, I reckon that’s to blame. Can’t be the mdma otherwise you’d all suffer from similar effects. Might be the half a pill but that wouldn’t account for the fabric trip.
Next time you go raving ask him to not smoke any weed that day and night and see how he is. If he still suffers then we can eliminate weed as a possible cause.
Let us know how things go mate.
Personally i think this is bad advice, i don’t think the guy should be told to re dose at all after what happened to him!
@p0ly 419048 wrote:
Personally i think this is bad advice, i don’t think the guy should be told to re dose at all after what happened to him!
Actually if you read what I wrote properly I never told him to re dose at all. I just said next time he goes and if he does go don’t smoke any weed. I didn’t say next time do a load of mdma did I! :weee:
I still think he needs to find out which drug is affecting him though! But you’re right it’s probably better to take a break first! 😉
Also to the OP. I should of asked, Has this geezer done mdma before?
If you say so mate, i think this person should be completely discouraged from taking drugs after what happened.
@p0ly 419053 wrote:
If you say so mate, i think this person should be completely discouraged from taking drugs after what happened.
Would he listen to us though? Probably best if he doesn’t but do you think he would stick to it?
I doubt it.
Well if i had panic attacks twice in a row i think i would, why wouldn’t they unless you are saying they are a complete idiot with no care in the world about their health?
Of course I’m not saying he’s an idiot (dunno where you got that from?) but let’s face it. Peer pressure and a wanting to conform will make anyone staying off the sauce join in again. I’ve seen it loads of times and most people are like this unfortunately. Hell, I’ve even been in situations like this. I bet you have as well. People will do things regardless even if they are bad for them. Look at smokers.
What I am saying is if he is going to do drugs again then he needs to eliminate the ones causing him this grief. It’s common sense really.
Of course it’s common sense he doesn’t touch the rugs again but and I don’t want to keep repeating myself, if he does do them again he need to find out which ones don’t agree with him. Surely you can see the logic in that?
Thc combos can very frightening…. and since the placebo effect on both drugs(thc+mdma) is big it would be usefull to not use them at the same time….
THC always made MDMA a much nicer less paranoid experience for me!
Infact i used to hate MDMA without weed and the thought of MDMA without Weed or K still is quite a nasty thought to me.
This is just my own experiences though.
same here, but I have seen others that had a hard time due to thc combo…
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