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@General Lighting 381522 wrote:

if you read a British law on the Parliament website, it says something like “Be it enacted by the the Queen’s Most Excellent Majesty, and the Lords Spiritual and Temporal”.

The last two are the House of Lords. The “Lords Temporal” are the ones what get put in through the normal political system. Some are elected, some are not.

The Lords Spiritual are religious leaders, same as the mullahs and imams who have a lot of power in the Middle East! In our country they are from the Church of England.

Lords Spiritual – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

However, there have been legal arguments over the years that in a modern European nation either all religions can influence lawmaking or none of them – or its against human rights.

So the C of E have made a pact with other religions so as not to lose their power. Before this kicked off with Muslims there was a fuss over Orthodox Jews (the ones what have the hats and beards and you see around North London a lot) as they had managed to prove in Court that their faith had as much right to make laws as the C of E (well there is probably a lot of clever lawyers amongst them :wink:)

BBC NEWS | UK | Sharia law in UK is ‘unavoidable’

and I agree that religious groups should not have a place in the legislature, but they aren’t gonna give up power and the religions often work together to keep it.

Yeah I knew the Christians were nice and entrenched but you would expect that with out history. But applying Sharia law to criminal cases seems very wrong.

I just hope the more severe punishments of Sharia Law don’t come to the UK.

I agree with harsh punishments but not the ones that strict Muslim countries dole out. I consider them to be cruel and unusual and stuck way way in the past.

Like the punishment for gays. death. Drinking in the street. 80 lashes. I could go on but it’s too depressing and I’m in a fairly happy mood atm.

Anyone who thinks strict Islamic law is needed in Britain needs their heads looking at.

@General Lighting 381527 wrote:

well if the Lords Spritual used their powers they could apply Christian religious law to criminal cases. they just choose not to, but this could change at any time.

the House is Lords is not very popular although they could they would be wise not to piss off the nation I would have thought.

@1984 381530 wrote:

the House is Lords is not very popular although they could they would be wise not to piss off the nation I would have thought.

I don’t think they’d even try. They know they’re on borrowed time atm so doubt they’d so anything to make them even more unpopular.

@1984 381532 wrote:

so from the UK governments perspective, why did they introduce the Muslim Arbitration Tribunal and give them the powers they have? anyone any ideas?

Just thinking there must be a reason for it

Cos Muslims asked for it and our government is too spineless to say no. Can’t upset anyone now can we. 😉

Although in a way I say fair play to em. If you don’t ask you don’t get. As long as it doesn’t affect us in any way and stays as it is then let em keep it.