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April 26, 2010 at 6:26 pm

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joshd96320

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@General Lighting 381540 wrote:

bear in mind though there was no (public) Internet 20 years ago – and a quota on swearing on mainstream telly and radio…

UK censorship has never been like like foreign nations where tons of feds with guns stormed into bookshops and printing presses and trashed the place. it was more subtle, people with controversial content would never get a book deal or not be allowed to speak on radio and telly.

I do remember a couple of books being restricted/banned in the 80s but they did show people how to make bombs and advocate setting fire to businesses and all sorts. (and todays “free society” has actually led to more and more protest and paramilitary groups learning how to make bombs, it took the IRA 30 years to get to the state of technology middle east insurgents managed in about 2 years..)

however also books on drugs were had to get. they’d mysteriously go “out of print” and no bookshop would be able to get them..

‘anarchists cookbook’ :laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at:
April 26, 2010 at 6:38 pm

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General Lighting

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except the tactics in this particular book “Without a trace” more accurate and more tailored to Britain than America. it was targeted at the animal rights and anarchist protestor groups, and contained a lot of things that are classed as restricted info even today.

I nearly bought a copy in 1987 but didn’t have the cash and next time I went in Trading Standards or some other officials had visited the “hippy/anarchist” bookshop and removed all the copies. Mind you probably just as well as I was a lot angrier then and could have got myself into a lot of trouble.

I’ve seen a copy on some dodgy foreign torrents site but TBH its not worth the effort in downloading. the sorts of actions advocated then are counter-productive in the 21st century unless people want to see a return to the bad old days..
April 26, 2010 at 6:46 pm

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@General Lighting 381554 wrote:

Mind you probably just as well as I was a lot angrier then and could have got myself into a lot of trouble.

from what I have read about the cookbook you wouldn’t have got in much trouble its so full of errors and a lot of it is badly coped stuff from an old army manual (if I remember correctly).
April 26, 2010 at 6:48 pm

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@General Lighting 381554 wrote:

I’ve seen a copy on some dodgy foreign torrents site but TBH its not worth the effort in downloading. the sorts of actions advocated then are counter-productive in the 21st century unless people want to see a return to the bad old days..

I looked at a copy online and then suddenly realised how much the world has changed since I was a kid and promptly logged off never to return lol Actually herd people were in part prosecuted for downloading it very recently but I assume they also had evidence they intended to use it/other evidence of terrorist activities.

seems mad because as a kid everyone geeky had a copy, mainly because it seemed so dodgy I guess and cool (talking very young here lol). Times have changed since then, or I am more aware of how foolish such a book is to own.
April 26, 2010 at 6:48 pm

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@1984 381555 wrote:

from what I have read about the cookbook you wouldn’t have got in much trouble its so full of errors and a lot of it is badly coped stuff from an old army manual (if I remember correctly).

I’m talking about a different book though, a British one. It wasn’t even the discussion of IED’s which was the issue but it was advocating targeting and attacking certain kinds of businesses and institutions and explaining their vulnerable points, from memory it also divulged a bit of info about the workings of the Police which was not at all easy to obtain until the 1990s.
April 26, 2010 at 6:50 pm

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@General Lighting 381557 wrote:

I’m talking about a different book though, a British one. It wasn’t even the discussion of IED’s which was the issue but it was advocating targeting and attacking certain kinds of businesses and institutions and explaining their vulnerable points, from memory it also divulged a bit of info about the workings of the Police which was not at all easy to obtain until the 1990s.

ahh, now that does sound dodgy!
April 26, 2010 at 8:05 pm

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joshd96320

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@1984 381555 wrote:

from what I have read about the cookbook you wouldn’t have got in much trouble its so full of errors and a lot of it is badly coped stuff from an old army manual (if I remember correctly).

you remembered correctly
April 26, 2010 at 8:34 pm

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@1984 381556 wrote:

Times have changed since then, or I am more aware of how foolish such a book is to own.

back then young people of all backgrounds of course made bombs for fun but the worst they would have done would have been low-level property damage – with the devices being set off in fields or woods. the thought wouldn’t have crossed most peoples minds of making a IED to hurt someone, nor targeting a families property.

by the 1990s extremist groups were using IED’s fairly regularly. In foreign nations where access to firearms and explosives is easier, the problem is even worse – its got to the stage where they are even being used in domestic disputes!
April 26, 2010 at 8:37 pm

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@General Lighting 381584 wrote:

by the 1990s extremist groups were using IED’s fairly regularly.

yeah that was a problem from what I have read, lot of farms in Ireland, that’s a lot of fertiliser.
April 26, 2010 at 8:46 pm

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in 2002 there was also a suicide bomber in Finland – a young European lad, just walked into a packed shopping centre and set off his device..

his dad of course claims it wasn’t intentional but if he was only setting off bombs in the woods, why take the device through the crowded shopping centre?

Myyrmanni bombing – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
April 27, 2010 at 2:14 pm

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What happened today Poly? We drove through Aylesbury at about 1.30ish and couldn’t see anything.

Loads of cops about though. :/
April 27, 2010 at 2:18 pm

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GiantMidget

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Whoops I thought it was happening today. tis occurring on May 1st. Dunno why there was so many cops about though.

Might come down in me England shirt and have a nosy about, probably not a good idea thinking about it lol! :crazy_dru
April 27, 2010 at 2:35 pm

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p0ly

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@GiantMidget 381661 wrote:

Whoops I thought it was happening today. tis occurring on May 1st. Dunno why there was so many cops about though.

Might come down in me England shirt and have a nosy about, probably not a good idea thinking about it lol! :crazy_dru

sounds like a laugh to me… minus the england shirt :love:
April 27, 2010 at 2:38 pm

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GiantMidget

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@p0ly 381663 wrote:

sounds like a laugh to me… minus the england shirt :love:

Yeah man that would be a really bad idea tbh. As much as I love England (the country not the team) I don’t really want my face smashed in by any UAF wankers! :crazy:

Still though might assemble some troops together and come along. 😉
April 27, 2010 at 2:43 pm

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@GiantMidget 381658 wrote:

What happened today Poly? We drove through Aylesbury at about 1.30ish and couldn’t see anything.

Loads of cops about though. :/

standard procedure for the start of summer. assaults and sexual violence always rise when weather gets better, there are also less “happy” drugs around so the cops have to be ready for it.

Just read Malaysian news near where my mum lives and there was this Muslim dude in his uni halls of residence with his girlfriend. As they are not married they are breaking Sharia law and someone else had dobbed him in (probably the janitor or RA) , so the Islamic CID and loads of normal cops started banging on his door… feds heard a crash and so they bust the door in poor lad decided to jump out of the window – except he was 5 floors up! :yakk:
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