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I voted yes, because:

1.) Just look at the kind of knuckle-dragging sieg heiling scum who form their ranks. Even if the EDL was built around a legitimate concern (the rise of Sharia law in Britain), collectively, they are racist.

2.) They’re called the English Defence League. Why have such a militant, nationalist name? They may as well call themselves Pakis Out.

Fortunately, most of them seem content just to get beered up and take out their frustration in publicly staged cock-swinging demonstrations at the weekend rather than actually planning anything too dangerous.

@cheeseweasel 381669 wrote:

I voted yes, because:

1.) Just look at the kind of knuckle-dragging sieg heiling scum who form their ranks. Even if the EDL was built around a legitimate concern (the rise of Sharia law in Britain), collectively, they are racist.

2.) They’re called the English Defence League. Why have such a militant, nationalist name? They may as well call themselves Pakis Out.

Fortunately, most of them seem content just to get beered up and take out their frustration in publicly staged cock-swinging demonstrations at the weekend rather than actually planning anything too dangerous.

I don’t disagree that some are racist but I don’t think you can tar all members with the racist brush.

Also do you base your views on that one picture or were you there at the time? Personally I’d need to see em in the act before I class them all as racist. Not just assuming they are because some have skinheads and look a bit angry.

@General Lighting 381674 wrote:

even the feds were shocked (as they had to scrape him off the road, get CSI in and explain to his parents what had gone on (this last being the worst of all the jobs, especially explaining to his mum!) In fact for a non serious offence and being a decent lad at uni he would have got off with just doing extra prayers and saying he is planning to marry the girl (he cannot be forced to do so)

this is what actually happens to unmarried Muslims in Malaysia caught in close proximity..

[FONT=Tahoma, Helvetica, Arial]What happens when you are caught for Khalwat?[/FONT]

• [FONT=Tahoma, Helvetica, Arial]If you are in a confined place, the enforcement officers will ask to be let in. If you refuse, they will wait outside until the both of you come out. They will also guard all available exits and windows to prevent escape.[/FONT]
• [FONT=Tahoma, Helvetica, Arial]Once you come out, or if you are in an open place, the enforcement officers will explain the reasons for them being there. [/FONT]
• [FONT=Tahoma, Helvetica, Arial]Ask for their credentials. The credentials should have the words “Unit Penguatkuasaan Pejabat Agama” on them, unless the officers are members of the police force. [/FONT]
• [FONT=Tahoma, Helvetica, Arial]Here, you can explain to them why you were in that place and what you were doing, and that you were not engaged in any “immoral” acts. [/FONT]
• [FONT=Tahoma, Helvetica, Arial]If the enforcement officers are not satisfied with your answers, they will take you to the Religious Office.[/FONT]
• [FONT=Tahoma, Helvetica, Arial]If either one of you are underaged (below 16), the underaged person will be surrendered to the police and his/her parents will be contacted. To be released, your parents will have to provide bail (jamin mulut) where you will need to present yourself at the police station or court at a specific date. The case will then be referred to the Welfare Department.[/FONT]
• [FONT=Tahoma, Helvetica, Arial]At the Religious Office, you will be investigated and personal details such as information about your marital status, IC number etc. will be taken. You have a right not to reveal anything about the incident of arrest at this point. You can enforce your right to silence and request for your lawyer to be there. It is also important to note that anything you say at this point cannot be used as evidence against you in court.[/FONT]
• [FONT=Tahoma, Helvetica, Arial]You will then be taken to the police station for police bail, and then to the Syariah Court where the charge will be read. The Court will then set conditions for the bail. After which the prosecutor will take action.[/FONT]
• [FONT=Tahoma, Helvetica, Arial]If there is no prima facie case, then the prosecutor will send you a letter to this effect. If there is a case, the prosecutor will then conduct investigations and the enforcement officers will act as witnesses.[/FONT]
• [FONT=Tahoma, Helvetica, Arial]However, if the incident of arrest is not serious, you will be asked if you have repented (insaf) before prosecution. If yes, they may drop the charges and request that you attend counselling sessions at the Religious Office. If not, then the prosecution process will continue. [/FONT]
• [FONT=Tahoma, Helvetica, Arial]If found guilty, you will be fined for a maximum of RM3,000.00 and may be sentenced to jail. [/FONT]

Bad shit man, Poor kid. What would they have done if he was shacked up with another bloke though?

@p0ly 381683 wrote:

you could get quotes from the koran and pictures of their militant protests…. for all you know those chavs are kind people anyway! when muslims have signs saying behead those that insult islam then you don’t even need to judge a book by it’s cover….. the sign says it all

Agreed mate, The EDL are tame in comparison to Islamic militant protesters.

Proper harsh that is. they even hang gays in some pro Shari countries. I seem to remember a big uproar involving Iran over 2 men and a girl being publicly hanged just cos they were gay.

Madness ain’t it.

@GiantMidget 381675 wrote:

I don’t disagree that some are racist but I don’t think you can tar all members with the racist brush.

Nor can you tar all UAF as “wankers” or “hypocrites”.

UAF is an umbrella term which incorporates many different organisations. The Green Party, trade unions (NUT are a major one), Muslim Council of Great Britain, the Lab/Lib/Con parties, the Co-operative movement, and the Socialist Workers Party. The SWP would be the element you are talking about, even then not all SWP are of this ilk. I’m no fan of the SWP or their dominance within UAF, but be careful not to appear like you are defending the EDL with the same arguments that in a balanced perspective should be used to defend the UAF. What I would say is that I abhore violent protests on either side, but it’s a minority tbh.

The EDL have a large percentage of racist fuckwits, and yes I can vouch for it first hand. Marching through the streets of a multicultural city shouting “Musim bombers off our streets” and pro-Nationalist songs is intended to be provocative and they have a contigent of BNP members within their ranks. They are numbskulls, and to join them you’d be associating with a large proportion of thick racists.

On a further note, Sharia law will not be implemented in this country. That is a fear-mongering crock of shit.