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  • @General Lighting 402921 wrote:

    well we’ve supposedly moved on from “Ashes to Ashes” days when cops were able to beat confessions out of folk for committing minor theft/drug offences, hopefully it will stay that way.

    i posted that post the same time iacchus did and my post was directed at the initial thread topic 😉

    The authorities have had access to telephone call data records for about 30 years now. in a market-led, profit driven tech industry the real issue isn’t the politics but the costs of storing this data for the Govt and who pays for it. The national Government in some form or other is often one of the biggest customer of a telecoms company and has commercial as well as political power – even local Councils dangle the carrot of easy access to planning permission and lucrative long term contracts to get areas equipped with NTL cable as consumer internet isn’t as profitable (both Reading and Ipswich have done this).

    it is clearly worthwhile the telephone company storing details of what numbers are dialled as they use them to generate the bill!

    As on the Internet we are not normally billed at ISP level for each individual piece of content access its an extra non-profit generating job for the ISP to store loads of data, even if the routers can capture it.

    When commercial pressures dictate companies tend to cave in (such as RIM allowing all sorts of dodgy foreign régimes access to Blackberry emails in return for the devices being permitted by a country’s communications ministry).

    At every point there is the human factor, making the issues with technology irrelevant. Anyone in a chain of information might decide to blow the whistle to authorities or media anyway for either personal profit or principles..

    time to go and live in a tunnel

    fortunately i am not afraid of detention, so i would be quite willing to ‘fight for the cause’

    Its worrying, well, a little. Worth keeping an eye on the situation over the years me thinks.

    was reading a book from the 1990s this morning where people were expressing concerns over new technology and it mentioned how British Telecom System X exchanges had an automatic diversion facility where BT or the Home Office could listen to the calls remotely.

    System Y ones (or Ericsson AXE10) also have this – mind you I can do the same at home for all the calls in the offices I work in..

    hold up isnt this illegal on privacy terms?

    Unless you tell the people they are being listened to yes …

    Companies that do this will have it as part of the contract or other signed document I would imagin. just like if you phone up some where and it tells you they will record you call “for training perposes”. You have the option to hang up there and then if you don’t want to be recorded. It, in effect, is like signing a contract saying it’s ok to be recorded by staying on the phone after the warning.

    @DaftFader 403374 wrote:

    Unless you tell the people they are being listened to yes

    exactly and nowadays the govt explain on the local Police, SOCA and MI5 websites that peoples communication can and will be monitored in some circumstances.

    this gets round the EU human rights act which already has get out clauses against monitoring comms against crime and terrorism.

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