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      @tryptameanie 980309 wrote:

      See That would be me but I’m at least intelligent enough to know just to not bother unless I have someone who knows their stuff to guide me through everything.

      Had no interest inchemistry at school and have probably forgotten all of it but is now something I wsh had been different.

      basicly, making these drugs are really easy chemie. (distillation, refluxing, crystalisation, understanding what is a pH and so on…, but most important understanding is the safety but is not something u need to be EINSTEIN to understand it)

      @iliesse 980308 wrote:

      instead of using an electrique heater and an air extractor to evacuate the evaporating gaz

      In UK (apart from those specially marked as conforming to EU standards for lab equipment) many of these heaters and ventilators contain components that might still make a spark (and if there is any flammable vapour about then kaboom)

      I understand that my man but I want to understand the reaction processes are at each stage, be able to understand what is being produced at every step, including all fumes and what will happen if I make a mistake at each step and why it will happen.

      There’s a copy of Professor Buzzs, book of chemical synthesis which has quite a few compounds for which he gices excellent synthesis instructions for some incredibly complex compounds (Delta-9-THC is in there!!!!) but he is quite clear it is a guide for chemists and you can fucking kill yourself if you do not understand what you are doing. There are some conversions in chemistry where making twice or 3 times the amount of a compound does not always mean you just need 2 or 3 times more of every ingredient and so, you can fucking kill yourself (think he was on about moles in stuff or something), and sooooooooooooooo, I choose to live.


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        @tryptameanie 980314 wrote:

        I understand that my man but I want to understand the reaction processes are at each stage, be able to understand what is being produced at every step, including all fumes and what will happen if I make a mistake at each step and why it will happen.

        There’s a copy of Professor Buzzs, book of chemical synthesis which has quite a few compounds for which he gices excellent synthesis instructions for some incredibly complex compounds (Delta-9-THC is in there!!!!) but he is quite clear it is a guide for chemists and you can fucking kill yourself if you do not understand what you are doing. There are some conversions in chemistry where making twice or 3 times the amount of a compound does not always mean you just need 2 or 3 times more of every ingredient and so, you can fucking kill yourself (think he was on about moles in stuff or something), and sooooooooooooooo, I choose to live.

        These processes are really easy if u open ur general organique chemie book for meth, (calculating moles is something very basic and easy). I found the first year i had chemie that it was looking very difficult, cuz it wasn’t written like mathematic equations, but was involving also for example Red-OX principles which wasn’t easy like an normal equation cuz was taking in account which molecule is mostly giving a charge than an other, but today when i read things about organique chemie, it is strangely much more comprehensible , certainly because with the years my knowldges in other disciplines has evoluated.

        ANYWAY ITS TOO DIFFICULT TO EXPRESV MY KNOWLEGES IN UR FUCKING LANGUAGE. READIND PHYSICS CHEMIE AND MATHEMATICS IN ENGLISH IS EASIER FOR ME THAN WRITTING A TEXT ABOUT IT.
        ps : MAKING METH GIVES WHILE THE EXCHANGE OF CHARGES FROM THE PHOSPHORUS IN REFUXING PROCESS A KILLING FUMES NAMED “vapeur d’acide iodhydrique” (But there is certainly a missspelling typing fault inside)

        But if u wish to go looking inside the reaction and even more what the drriugs are doing in the brains for complicated chemien processes , its very complex

        [ATTACH=CONFIG]155111[/ATTACH] lol


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          have to go and stop my blabla, see u later SKULL-FACE 😉


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            @General Lighting 980313 wrote:

            In UK (apart from those specially marked as conforming to EU standards for lab equipment) many of these heaters and ventilators contain components that might still make a spark (and if there is any flammable vapour about then kaboom)

            DO U MEAN THAT AN AIR EXTRACTOR VENTILATOR SUCH USED IN CANNNABIS GROW ROOMS IF USED TO GET RID OF THE ISO-PROPYL VAPOURS ARE MAKING SPAKELS????

            @iliesse 980317 wrote:

            These processes are really easy if u open ur general organique chemie book for meth, (calculating moles is something very basic and easy). I found the first year i had chemie that it was looking very difficult, cuz it wasn’t written like mathematic equations, but was involving also for example Red-OX principles which wasn’t easy like an normal equation cuz was taking in account which molecule is mostly giving a charge than an other, but today when i read things about organique chemie, it is strangely much more comprehensible , certainly because with the years my knowldges in other disciplines has evoluated.

            ANYWAY ITS TOO DIFFICULT TO EXPRESV MY KNOWLEGES IN UR FUCKING LANGUAGE. READIND PHYSICS CHEMIE AND MATHEMATICS IN ENGLISH IS EASIER FOR ME THAN WRITTING A TEXT ABOUT IT.
            ps : MAKING METH GIVES WHILE THE EXCHANGE OF CHARGES FROM THE PHOSPHORUS IN REFUXING PROCESS A KILLING FUMES NAMED “vapeur d’acide iodhydrique” (But there is certainly a missspelling typing fault inside)

            But if u wish to go looking inside the reaction and even more what the drriugs are doing in the brains for complicated chemien processes , its very complex

            [ATTACH=CONFIG]155111[/ATTACH] lol

            See I’m not even that good and I want to know the chemistry, the art itself, not just the process :).

            Enjoy your day my friend.


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              @tryptameanie 980320 wrote:

              See I’m not even that good and I want to know the chemistry, the art itself, not just the process :).

              Enjoy your day my friend.

              I ALSO BE INTERSTED IN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DO THINGS BUT THE PRIMARY INTEREST IS GETTING THE BEST RESULT WITHOUT ANY HURTS, each time i learn something new is improving the quality and even the safety like am just being stupefied and scary due to Mister GL

              @iliesse 980319 wrote:

              DO U MEAN THAT AN AIR EXTRACTOR VENTILATOR SUCH USED IN CANNNABIS GROW ROOMS IF USED TO GET RID OF THE ISO-PROPYL VAPOURS ARE MAKING SPAKELS????

              Depends on the exact equipment used and its control systems (particularly if they are also switching lamps, ballasts etc); I think (although you would likely know more) that flashpoint of IPA is much higher than benzine (naptha); it is less likely to form explosive mixtures with air and its relatively safe.

              TBH most setups you might encounter in CH, NL and DE are very likely to be safe (I saw one on a crime news documentary from Gronnigen NL and the wiring was perfect) – a lot appear to use industrial grade process control equipment that would be found in chemical production factories across Europe – it is more a problem in the UK when the grow rooms are run in residential houses with stolen electric supply and cheap Chinese timers.


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                @General Lighting 980324 wrote:

                Depends on the exact equipment used and its control systems (particularly if they are also switching lamps, ballasts etc); I think (although you would likely know more) that flashpoint of IPA is much higher than benzine (naptha); it is less likely to form explosive mixtures with air and its relatively safe.

                TBH most setups you might encounter in CH, NL and DE are very likely to be safe (I saw one on a crime news documentary from Gronnigen NL and the wiring was perfect) – a lot appear to use industrial grade process control equipment that would be found in chemical production factories across Europe – it is more a problem in the UK when the grow rooms are run in residential houses with stolen electric supply and cheap Chinese timers.

                for exampe

                Finaly, it’s alway’s a good thing to debate about things sounding evident safe, and being warned by GL about something I never thought before, and finally finding out that there is absolutely no worry to have.

                Even there would be a few sparkles inside a such air extractor :
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                Taking an example of heating a pan containing 500 ml of Isopropyl alcohol, there should be 5% of Isopropyl alcohol in the air to get an explosion with a sparkle.

                The amount of vapor passing through the air extractor is so little compared to the air passing by the same time that there would never be possible to get an explosion. And even when this would occuring, the air flow would maybe make a flame, but in the direction of the out side, (it would never make a flame in direction of the pan)

                this is a bit the same when fire is coming out of these crazy dragsters[ATTACH=CONFIG]155114[/ATTACH] there is no “KABOUM

                That may be true for isopropyl alcohol (the 5% mix in 95% air) but is definitely not the same for other gasses.

                @iliesse 980284 wrote:

                my country is known to be able to grow nearly all kind of plants, even if it needs very special conditions the tek today is able to provide it.

                what kind of plantt is it??? what would be the problem to grow it in europa?

                I meant its not native to Europe, but yeah it probably could grow most places.

                Hey all I haven’t posted in a while but that’s xuz I’ve been super busy with some other stuff.

                Anyways I have another half kilo of root bark on the way from Europe and the following lab stuff just got sent to my place…

                500g lab grade sodium chloride x 2
                1 kg lab grade NaOH pellets
                500ml lab grade heptane
                4L industrial grade toluene
                10cm Dia x 5cm height crystallization dish
                12 x 25cm glass stirring rods w/rubber policemen
                3m medium sized noisha approved organic fume respirator
                500g shredded m.h.r.b.
                100g activated carbon

                Hopefully with this new equipment and reagents I can get a higher yield and a cleaner large crystal lattice substance. So far after one run I’ve managed to get a 2.1% yield I’m gonna try a few things that I’ve tweaked in this tek to get an even higher % yield. Having a crystallization dish makes a huge difference I’m getting some beautifully large crystals and they’re absolutely clear after being scrubbed with the carbon. I’ve found that both naphtha and heptane works really well for crystallization, it more or less comes down to technique for getting large crystals. I’ve managed to get large yellow tinged rocky custard and now after cleaning all the slag out I’ve gotten a clear crystalline product. Mind you I haven’t been able to get it into large crystalline chunks so I’ll be trying some things today.

                Pce

                Look forward to reading about your results.

                The bark should get here in about 7 business days and then I’ll be making a new thread detailing the process I follow step by step with pics. Hoping to break 2.1% yield and hit around 2.5%. I have a few ideas that may increase the yield. Plus I’ll be using all lab grade reagents so that may help too.

                I’m also a week into making jungle spice and as of now it’s looking really promising.

                Does anyone know a good source for powdered San Pedro? I’m would like to make a batch of mesc. But I haven’t been able to source any powdered Pedro only fresh cut.

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