Party Vibe

Given the current climate and that this project would be entirely controlled by ravers I think its a good idea – I’ve been critical about stuff like this in the past but mostly because a mainstream producer has tried to take control.

If scum on UK garage/grime scene are getting bare airtime and dragging the entire urban music scene down with their antics (I bet its because of them half the cops think raves should be shut down – they think we have crack and guns) its got to the stage we must put our positive views across.

There are risks (particularly to the journos as cops often try to seize production equipment to halt a project, they even do this to BBC staff)-but they can be minimised like any other risk.

With 80% of the SE on full on zero tolerance we need to get our side of the story across to more “normal” people. Some will no doubt refuse to tolerate, but others may be wiiling to compromise.

I would be wary though of using larger “broadcast quality” DVcams in raves though, their presence intimidates people who are not used to the media. Also make sure each camera op has backup from the party crews against the overly paranoid (and those who realise that DVcams will buy a considerable amount of rocks on the street). There is loads of miniDV footage on the box anyway;the reason it is often pants is due to mainstream tv cos and camera ops being lazy rather than equipment limitations.

Originally posted by USE
Cheers General, just went on squatjuice and got mauled. four pages of posts in 15 minuites, tho, well impressive, if slightly mental. good to see passionate people bringing the ruckus, and it does provide a good balance to the relative tranquility of this site. made my adrenalin pump tho.. check out the thread, it started the same as this, but ended quite differently

http://www.squatjuice.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=muddy;action=display;num=1102516163

I recon squt juice trolling should be an extreme sport…what else can i do to wind them up?

Nothing. Winding each other up is unfortunately part of that board 😀 – people often do know each other IRL so usually it stops (just) short of actual physical violence at raves when people encounter one another.

what was said anyway? I can’t read SJ from work, its blocked..

now on an unfiltered net feed so had a chance to read the SJ “debate”.

Can fully understand the worries, but I am amazed hat people still think the rest of society doesn’t already know about rave (whether they accept them is a different issue)

FFS parties have been going on for 14 years now! The last couple in my city got full page local news articles. Raves have also been widely featured on mainstream media (both fiction and current affairs) for years, usually fairly negatively. The term has also been corrupted by the UK garage scene 😡 I can remember only a few months ago watching an episode of the Bill where they raided an illegal garage event; there was a scene with crack dealers and armed cops pointing matching Glock pistols at each other.

Type in “free party” on google and there are bare links to sites which tell you what raves are all about, how to put them on even some (out of date) lists of partylines, and both PV and SJ are widely featured.

TBH videos could be way less hassle than stuff like the party photo galleries where there are photos of all the usual suspects and even people’s motor cars and vans without the registration marks obscured!

if people are worried it is relatively easy to make a project that only “trusted” people can see – don’t put it on the internet where you cannot vet who downloads it – simply put the final copy on VHS and only let your friends have copies!

The technique of distributing such an item is called samizdat and was used in the Soviet Union where things were far harsher. even if cops did get a pirate copy it will be fuck all use for evidence gathering anyway due to the poor quality.

if it weren’t for websense I’d still use SJ – but because work blocked it and i work long hours sometimes I can no longer keep up with the pace on there; particularly as trolls can bury a lot of good stuff within a few hours…

the rave battle stuff sounds excellent; ISTR there was some freeware/open source 3d-games engine but sadly I haven’t kept up with the techie knowledge needed to put this sort of stuff together. Where I am boring database work makes the cash but pretty pictures don’t (but I know damn well what I’d rather do 😉 )

ISTR = I seem to remember….