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What we need is a very concise set of basic animal rights,
1. the right to move.
2.the right to fresh air.
3. The right to nurture younglings. (most dairy cows have their calfs removed from birth)
A gestation crate, also known as a sow stall, is a metal enclosure used in intensive pig farming, in which a female breeding pig (sow) may be kept during pregnancy, and in effect for most of her adult life.[1] The enclosures measure 6.6 ft x 2.0 ft (2 m x 60 cm) and house sows that weigh up to 600 lbs (270 kg).[2]
The floors of the crates are made of concrete, and are slatted to allow waste to be collected below.[3] As the sows outgrow the crates, they must sleep on their chests, unable to turn around.[4] A few days before giving birth, they are moved to farrowing crates, where they are able to lie down to nurse while being held apart from their piglets.
Pork producers argue that they are needed because sows who are housed together will fight. Animal advocates regard their use as one of the most inhumane features of intensive animal agriculture. [4]
Many studies have shown that sows in crates exhibit behavior such as bar-biting, head weaving, and tongue rolling. They also show behavior that indicates learned helplessness, according to Morris, such as remaining passive when poked or when a bucket of water is thrown over them.[20] A review by the Scientific Veterinary Council of the European Commission states that repetitive “stereotypical” behavior has been found in “every detailed study” of pigs in gestation crates, but not in any other housing systems examined.[7] A 2004 literature review by animal scientists determined that sows in stalls exhibited more “stereotypical” behavior than sows in group housing, but that animals housed in stalls had lower injury rates and higher farrowing rates.[21]
Its worth eating free range really.
@Izbeckistan 530131 wrote:
What we need is a very concise set of basic animal rights,
1. the right to move.
2.the right to fresh air.
3. The right to nurture younglings. (most dairy cows have their calfs removed from birth)
This is what the EU animal protection laws were intended to be but the farming lobbies (in more than one nation) watered them down :hopeless:
The harsh facts are a lot of lads in rural areas (not just in UK but NL as well) don’t care as this keeps them in work and even enjoy the dominance they have over others and it carries through to their human relationships. Life can be cheap in bumpkinland and one reason there are as many stabbings here as in a London inner city area is that lads who work in slaughterhouses and butchers are obviously used to sticking knifes into living creatures, its easy to become desensetised.
@General Lighting 530137 wrote:
This is what the EU animal protection laws were intended to be but the farming lobbies (in more than one nation) watered them down :hopeless:
The harsh facts are a lot of lads in rural areas (not just in UK but NL as well) don’t care as this keeps them in work and even enjoy the dominance they have over others and it carries through to their human relationships. Life can be cheap in bumpkinland and one reason there are as many stabbings here as in a London inner city area is that lads who work in slaughterhouses and butchers are obviously used to sticking knifes into living creatures, its easy to become desensetised.
How sad, bastards need locking up.
Not just as meer punishment, but as prevention.
It was a video just like this one that made me go vegetarian a few years back 🙁
It’s not that eating meat is bad, but I think you should treat the animals with respect. They’re giving their life for us to consume, we should at least show them we’re grateful 🙁
@Izbeckistan 530140 wrote:
How sad, bastards need locking up.
Not just as meer punishment, but as prevention.
blokes here were stabbing each other to death when there was hanging and even today prison sentences for premeditated violence with knives are longer than even for two lads having a fight without weapons where one is badly hurt/injured. to be fair the feds and councils do a decent enough job to discourage it as much as they can but you will still always get some stubborn violent individuals. The brother of the girl mentioned below was a friend of some of the Evil Kitty crew from North Essex who occasionally post on here..
Bin a Blade amnesty hits more than 8,000 – Crime and Courts – Suffolk Free Press
@chellywonder2.0 530143 wrote:
It was a video just like this one that made me go vegetarian a few years back 🙁
It’s not that eating meat is bad, but I think you should treat the animals with respect. They’re giving their life for us to consume, we should at least show them we’re grateful 🙁
My new age friend probably did pray for the pig (or whatever they do instead of prayer). Him and his friends once embarrassed their own teenage kids by not just gathering in the cellar and playing loud music and getting stoned (they were all well into their 50s), but at one point they shut off all the lights in the house and howled like dogs :laugh_at:
GRAIN is fed to cattle in South American countries to produce the meat in McDonald’s hamburgers. Cattle consume 10 times the amount of grain and soy that humans do: one calorie of beef demands ten calories of grain. Of the 145 million tons of grain and so fed to livestock, only 21 million tons of meat and by-products are used. The waste is 124 million tons per year at a value of 20 billion US dollars. It has been calculated that this sum would feed, clothe and house the world’s entire population for one year.
i just think we could be more smart about how we treat the world and the HUMAN RACE. instead of slaughtering everything for greed.
@Psybastian 530150 wrote:
GRAIN is fed to cattle in South American countries to produce the meat in McDonald’s hamburgers. Cattle consume 10 times the amount of grain and soy that humans do: one calorie of beef demands ten calories of grain. Of the 145 million tons of grain and so fed to livestock, only 21 million tons of meat and by-products are used. The waste is 124 million tons per year at a value of 20 billion US dollars. It has been calculated that this sum would feed, clothe and house the world’s entire population for one year.
i just think we could be more smart about how we treat the world and the HUMAN RACE. instead of slaughtering everything for greed.
Unfortunately I remember folk complaining (quite rightly) about the above when I was only 14/15 in the 1980s. That said, does McDonalds in the UK and Europe really get its beef/horse from hundreds of miles away? I wouldn’t have though this would be cost effective.
the worst part of it is even if the above does apply only to the USA, at least half the Americans are more clued up than folk realise (it was after all USA activists who make the films in the first post) but the greedy ones keep the good ones down.
The UK and Europe dont get there beef from oversea’s anymore (in the sense of mcdonalds) But the fact still remains we use an unnecessary amount of resources for the luxury of fast food which is absolutely rubbish for your body. i know that we bring it on our selves, there wouldnt be a mcdonalds if people stopped going.
i would just like to see us as a collective race, striving for success. utilizing ready to use technology, and eventually stop using resources that earth has spent millions of years creating. we need to stop killing each other over minerals, weapons, religion and land.
@Psybastian 530172 wrote:
The UK and Europe dont get there beef from oversea’s anymore (in the sense of mcdonalds) But the fact still remains we use an unnecessary amount of resources for the luxury of fast food which is absolutely rubbish for your body. i know that we bring it on our selves, there wouldnt be a mcdonalds if people stopped going.
That is true (whatever they serve for food in there makes me ill anyway) – in any case a hamburger is a European invention and in many areas it was (and still is!) perfectly normal for it to contain at least a bit of horse, as it was a way of feeding hungry workers in coastal areas who don’t have a lot of time for cooking or making other food
Similarly with the original Chinese takeaways and restaurants, though many are fairly upmarket now.
personally, i dont have a problem with there being horse meat in some products, in the end of the day meat is meat. studies show horse is better for you then cow. i’ve eaten alot of meats from Impala-kudu- kangaroo-crocodile. im a vegetarian now so wont touch any flesh of an animal lol but simply because i dont want to. i get so annoyed with these animal activists who will look for a argument if they see someone eating a bacon sandwich. people should be able to decide for them selves how they live there life, not having everyone tell them how to live it.
good talk, good to learn about “using horse as a way of feeding workers in coastal areas”
Anyone remember the Ban live exports protests down here at shoreham harbour. Some fella even got killed when he fell under the wheels of the lorry. Dudes were climbing all over the trucks though. Was fucking hectic. Went on for quite a while until the police ordered a half dozen of TSG cops from the met. Then it was a few days of new age travelers and students getting their heads bashed in before they decided to divert the lorry’s to other harbours. Was a mental time. I wasn’t involved in it but one night me and my friend went down toward basin road when we were going to the beach and we saw a large gathering of protesters and coppers.
As it goes basin road south used to be a very popular spot for free parties. We either use to go on the beach by hopping over the wall, or right down the end where their is a concrete area and Carrots cafe.
LOL funny thing is there is a row of posh houses dubbed “milionaires row” right on basin road south which houses the likes of Norman “fat boy slim” Cook and Sir Paul McCartney. We always imagined seeeing old Norman popping down to investige the party but he never showed. Also Imagine old Sir Paul getting involved with the live export protests LOL (yeah right)
To be fair yes the treatment of the animals is disgusting, brutal and unnecessary but this is the reality of life. If we were wild and in our natural state we would probably be doing a lot worse.
I’m not saying I agree with it because tbh it is sickening, they should be treated and killed humanely, but do you really think if we shot them with an arrow to the ass they died an easy pain free death? No, they’d be in immense pain before they got their head caved in with a rock..
in the natural state of wild humans cannibalism was rife especially during times of famine.
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