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December 2, 2004 at 12:13 pm

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rather worrying – IME IT workers are either very liberal/hedonistic or very conservative (to the point of right-wing extremism). you can of course see which sort will want to become a special..

Incidentally is the UK the only European nation with this peculiar concept of a volunteer police force?

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IT pros called to become boys in blue
Dan Ilett
ZDNet UK
December 01, 2004, 17:45 GMT

IT professionals could soon be asked to volunteer their services to police the Internet.

The European Information Society Group (EURIM) is calling on the government to employ the services of IT workers as special constables.

The request has apparently been welcomed by commissioner of the Metropolitan police Sir John Stevens.

“I think we should be using special constables,” said chairman of EURIM Brian White, MP. “IT managers could be given special powers. If they were trained in evidence gathering, they could report straight to the Crown Prosecution Service. [They could] secure crime scenes and give records to court, for example.”

The recommendations follow findings earlier this year that only 240 people were qualified to work in digital forensics and evidence recovery. EURIM is proposing to increase the number of skilled police officers patrolling the cyber world.

White said that legislation alone was not enough to fight cybercrime, and more had to be done to improve the level of skilled police for the Internet.

As part of EURIM’s proposals, White added that the UK needed better methods of reporting cybercrime because local police stations were ill-equipped to handle the task.

EURIM also proposed that some of the barriers to becoming a special constable should be removed, especially for IT specialists.

“One of the things you need to be [to join the special constables] is physically fit,” said Philip Virgo, secretary general for EURIM. “There would probably be lots of people who could monitor Internet chat rooms who couldn’t police the town on a Friday night. There are lots of boundaries to this that don’t need to be there.”

EURIM also called for IT specialists to contribute ideas for Internet policing, as the debate for what role the Serious Organised Crime Agency will play will begin over the next few weeks. EURIM said it wanted to use the opportunity to ensure that people had a centralised point of contact when they needed to report a cybercrime.

Currently, the Metropolitan Police Computer Crime Unit in London has 11 officers.
December 8, 2004 at 6:34 am

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Theres been a bunch of stuff like this : community beat officers in citys and towns, and the special cuntstable bit isnt new- my nana was one till she bought the farm. round our area, the parties were grassed up by locals as much as anything else, and on one occasion, we had some bloke come down like a one man army wearing a L.A. Police tshirt!

labour just wants more police control, wants to involve communities in self rgulation, which also happens to be dead cheap. im not actually against the idea of a policeforce more intergrated with society- i think a little more understanding either way is a good thing, and can only benefit the structure of society.

On the other hand, it always seems like the busybody “dont do that” brigade who take up the baton. This is probably due to the sort of criteria the pigs are looking for – well, squares to be fair (no offence to any hardworkers out there) in my old road in bristle there was a neighbourhood watch, an i went to a meeting, coz i t woz a nice neighbourhood with low crime. It was a nightmare. not nly that but it just got the president on out backs for not having a curtain in the upstairs window! WTF. this old biddy came round three or four times to register some compaint or other. ok we had a couple of parties, but they werent as loud as the family down the road. but we dont have kids, so obviously we dont need sleep (he says at half6 in the morn).

it would be cool if we had some safe cats policin places, actually gettin to the bottom of serious crime by ignoring the petty shit and gaining the communities trust. if only. society would have to stop being so over 40 orientated. wuill our generation be the same, do you recon?
December 8, 2004 at 12:20 pm

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i work people frma really wide range of backgrounds… but many have disablities or are socially disadvantaged / excluded.

we do get bits of funding from the community safety partnership (which includes the pohlease) to encourage people, especially young people to get a bit more active in their community… for example, in Exeter there is a bylaw banning skating in the city centre. so we recruited some young skaters to do a massive consultation of what skaters needed. the resulting document was so impressive that the local council could not ignore it and now there is a decent skate park.

result.

i agree that many of the people that get involved in things like neighbourhood watch are ‘a type’, but the only way that that is going to change is by a wider representation.

If groups seem cliqey it can be intimidating. many organisations that are supposed to represent / serve us make no attempt to engage with minorities or whatever (unless it’s a tick-box exercise to cover their own backs for equal opps etc).

which means that it’s up to us. we must not be intimidated. if everyone in the room disagrees, take it as encouragement that you are causing a stir… these are the first steps of change.

‘specials’ date back a long way. weren’t the first ‘peelers’ volunteers? or am i getting my history muddled?

back to topic…as far as policing the internet goes, i would offer a cautious welcome… as long as it is targetted at virus writers, card fraud, child abuse etc…

finally, USE, I have an idea which may help the ‘dream’. Arts Councils, like all charitable organisations, have a management committee made up of volunteers. You could apply to be a trustee of the arts council in your area and represent your ideas about art and culture. just an idea
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