@fr0gman 405462 wrote:
Actually ethanol is a more volatile solvent and has a much higher potential for accident of injury.
bullshit.
@fr0gman 405452 wrote:
EPIC FAIL!
GBL is legal in many places, including the USA and Canada. GBL is converted into GHB in the body but Rohypnol has NOTHING to do with it.
Properly used, GHB can have very positive and life-changing effects.
In the future, please verify before you post. There is enough propaganda and mis-information out there already.
epic fail? why are children coming onto the board? I think its fair to assume that as the person was in England my response was accurate.
Although I was wrong about GHB its just very simular and sometimes the terms are incorrectly used interchangeably.
where the fuck are my shreddies.
@1984 405480 wrote:
bullshit.
Seriously?
Have you ever read the MSDS on ethanol and GHB/GBL?
Give it a Google and let me know what you find. Here’s a hint:
Ethanol CAUSES birth defects.
GHB is given to birthing mothers to assist in delivery.
That difference, alone, proves my point that ethanol is more dangerous than GHB.
@1984 405481 wrote:
epic fail? why are children coming onto the board?
I am in the over 40 camp, mate!
I disagree about positive and life-changing effects, there is no way in hell that chemical could change your life.
The stupor induced is akin to ether or alcohol, and is in no way capable of incurring any light or spiritual revelation.
I bought my GBL while it was still legal, and it turned illegal in the post. If you’re in the UK, you can no longer have it imported.
@shoe 407715 wrote:
I disagree about positive and life-changing effects, there is no way in hell that chemical could change your life.
No offense, but that’s where you are wrong!
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Read some of the many reports by people in the US that are being treated with the legal version of GHB and how it changed their lives.
i can definitely see how it can help change your life… i’ve used it recreationally and for other reasons as well. it should not be taken lightly, but if you’re responsible with it, it can be a great substance.
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I wish that people could understand that abuse is abuse no matter what the substance.
GHB has helped me lose 38 pounds of fat, totally eliminate chronic insomnia, completely remove depression and anxiety and build much better relationships with my family. But, I do not take it to get high or as a party drug.
@fr0gman 419754 wrote:
Here is another place that you can go: spankthemonkey.manlove.sperm.sterotypical.
I wish that people could understand that abuse is abuse no matter what the substance.GHB has helped me lose 38 pounds of fat, totally eliminate chronic insomnia, completely remove depression and anxiety and build much better relationships with my family. But, I do not take it to get high or as a party drug.
GBl is not legal in the UK. You are not allowd to post drug links, even if legal. Might want to remove the link old bean.
@fr0gman 419754 wrote:
I wish that people could understand that abuse is abuse no matter what the substance.
GHB has helped me lose 38 pounds of fat, totally eliminate chronic insomnia, completely remove depression and anxiety and build much better relationships with my family. But, I do not take it to get high or as a party drug.
I could understand that using GHB could help you sleep and that’s a good thing if you had trouble before, but using any substance to loose weight is stupid imo. and the only reason you’re feeling less depressed and anxious when not on GHB is probably because you are now well rested and not dis-happy with your weight due to previously taking GHB.
What’s gonna happen tho when you stop taking GHB alltogether? You’ll put on all the weight again I would imagin. You should try and find a more perminent ways of dealing with your problems rather then brushing them under the carpet with a drug – I know from personal experiances it’s a bad idea. I used to drink to cure my confidence/sleeping/anxiaty problems … but they’ll come back with avengance if you stop using for a period of time unless you have actualy solved them.
@extraslim 419761 wrote:
GBl is not legal in the UK. You are not allowd to post drug links, even if legal. Might want to remove the link old bean.
That is not a drug link old bean. It is a link to an article. Legal or not it is still NOT a link to a place that sells drugs.
In the sea of misinformation and outright scam sites it can be very difficult to find a reliable source to buy gamma-butyrolactone on the internet. I have researched the myriad of website that advertise GBL and I have found most to either be unreliable or a front to steal your money
Simply articles about different issues revolving around GBL, but thanks for the net nanny moment.
@DaftFader 419782 wrote:
I could understand that using GHB could help you sleep and that’s a good thing if you had trouble before, but using any substance to loose weight is stupid imo. and the only reason you’re feeling less depressed and anxious when not on GHB is probably because you are now well rested and not dis-happy with your weight due to previously taking GHB.
What’s gonna happen tho when you stop taking GHB alltogether? You’ll put on all the weight again I would imagin. You should try and find a more perminent ways of dealing with your problems rather then brushing them under the carpet with a drug – I know from personal experiances it’s a bad idea. I used to drink to cure my confidence/sleeping/anxiaty problems … but they’ll come back with avengance if you stop using for a period of time unless you have actualy solved them.
GHB causes you to lose FAT, not weight. When you are in the deepest stages of sleep your brain releases HGH (Human Growth Hormone), as much as 14x baseline. On of the properties of HGH is that it causes your body to release stored fat. When you take GHB your body is healthier and does not store fat.
Fat is a massive storage area for cortisol which is a stress hormone. When you reduce the fat you also reduce the amount of cortisol in your body thereby reducing anxiety and depression.
GHB also increases the levels of Serotonin and Dopamine in the brain. These two chemicals are critical in controlling mood.
The increase in HGH also helps to build lean muscle mass. I have been going to the gym and lifting weights and I am in the best mental, physical and emotional health of my entire life.
DO NOT believe the rubbish you read about GHB. It is truly a wonderful substance when used responsibly.
HGH is also releaced when you do excersize properly and I’d much rather do that everyday then GHB. I know some one who used to work treating addicts and it’s a horrible horrible thing to get hooked on – much worce withdrawrals then smack! That’s not some “rubbish I have read” either.
Alot of drugs effect either seratonin or dopamine levels in the body – it’s how they effect our mood like they do.
I’m also at the best mental and psysicle health of my life since I was at school and it’s got nothing to do with any drugs – more so that I’ve actualy stopped doing them most of the time and actualy knuckled down and done some excersize.
Don’t get me wrong, fair enough if it’s helped you out. Certain drugs have helped me out in the past with diferant things. It’s not a long term solution tho imo. You have to get to the root of the problem to fix anything.
@fr0gman 419807 wrote:
That is not a drug link old bean. It is a link to an article. Legal or not it is still NOT a link to a place that sells drugs.
Simply articles about different issues revolving around GBL, but thanks for the net nanny moment.
ah well thats okay then should have botherd to read it properly, my apoligies.
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