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@extraslim 421819 wrote:

great opening gambit…

It is true. Fish do not understand water because they have never experienced life without it. Brits do not understand gun ownership as Americans do because they have never experienced it. It is not a negative statement. It is just fact; Brits will never understand the gun thing.

@fr0gman 421825 wrote:

It is true. Fish do not understand water because they have never experienced life without it. Brits do not understand gun ownership as Americans do because they have never experienced it. It is not a negative statement. It is just fact; Brits will never understand the gun thing.

you can only understand things you personally experance? really?

*stares at book shelf*

@fr0gman 421825 wrote:

It is true. Fish do not understand water

don’t bring fish into it – they understand more than you realise!

@fr0gman 421830 wrote:

I also have a gun collection that I use for hunting and sport shooting. In fact, the thing I love a lot is going to the club in the summer and shooting clays. I also deeply enjoy a long walk with a good dog and a field filled with pheasants.

On the other hand, I have a collection of guns that serve no purpose other than to protect my family, my home, my property, and my way of life. I do this partly because I believe that it is the logical and responsible thing to do, and partly because it is my right as a citizen to own any gun that I can afford.

I agree that almost anything can be used as a weapon. I have learned over the years how to use anything from a salt shaker to a fountain pen, but my 16 year old daughter and my petite wife are not a capable. They can, however, fire any weapon that we have and to a high degree of accuracy.

I don’t think you’ll get many positive reactions regarding your use of guns on PV, no matter what your intentions. The arguments for and against could fill volumes, but I’d imagine most people who come on here could do without it. I have plenty of friends in the US, none of whom would agree with your position on gun ownership.

@fr0gman 421815 wrote:

It is impossible for Brits to understand the whole gun thing. You have never been a position where you have had to rely on a gun to protect your way of life. You got close in WWII and you thought that you were going there with the IRA, but really people in London have never had the opportunity to need an armed society. That makes it impossible for you to understand.

I Have .Have you ?

The US has always been a society where private gun ownership has been a big part of life. Here, you can easily get a permit to carry a gun. Not everyone does it, but a large majority of people have guns in their homes. It is a way of life here and for the most part, legal gun ownership is a very safe thing. The majority of gun crimes are not committed by lawful gun owners. They are committed by criminals seeking to protect their street drug trade.

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Oweally how are all those, whats the word? Massacres? How are all those high school massacres working out for right to bare arms? Seeing as all of them were carried out with LEGALLY obtained weapons.

Gun Deaths – International Comparisons.

Gun deaths per 100,000 population (for the year indicated):

	Homicide	Suicide	Other (inc Accident)
USA (2001)	3.98	5.92	0.36
Italy (1997)	0.81	1.1	0.07
Switzerland (1998)	0.50	5.8	0.10
Canada (2002)	0.4	2.0	0.04
Finland (2003)	0.35	4.45	0.10
Australia (2001)	0.24	1.34	0.10
France (2001)	0.21	3.4	0.49
England/Wales (2002)	0.15	0.2	0.03
Scotland (2002)	0.06	0.2	0.02
Japan (2002)	0.02	0.04	0

Data taken from Cukier and Sidel (2006) The Global Gun Epidemic. Praeger Security International. Westport.

HOW SAFE DO YOU FEEL NOW?

@parrotfish 421836 wrote:

I don’t think you’ll get many positive reactions regarding your use of guns on PV, no matter what your intentions. The arguments for and against could fill volumes, but I’d imagine most people who come on here could do without it. I have plenty of friends in the US, none of whom would agree with your position on gun ownership.

I am not looking for support for my position on gun ownership. In fact, I said that it is impossible for you to understand.

I’m speechless.

GHB seems to have some pretty bad mental effects IMO opinion after reading this guys posts.

You’re actually putting me off GHB now because you seem to be LOCOOOOOOOOO

When I made a statement on guns and gun-culture I forgot to mention I am norwegian. Norway(I do not know why Norway aint on the statistics…) have one of the worlds highest number guns issued pr inhabitants(after america), and one of the lowest number gun incidendts, the normal police have not been issued with a gun. How can that be? Its a matter of weapon culture, you are not allowed to own a gun for protection. And that is the main question; How do you look at guns? Its like this, when you concentrate the gun culture around protection and look at gun-use to use it at other human beings then you cross the sacred border of not thinking of take another humans life…. I know from the shooting range back in the day when I was frequently training there I met some american federal agents, and the first thing we had to do was to get them feeling safe and not see ghosts/enemies everywhere. And luckily we sucseeded or we had to throw them out… So for me there are no reasonable cause to have guns for protection against other humans, its a crime to look at it that way in my world. What right do you have to take another life, and how can you defend justice that says its a crime to take another life? When you justify it for yourself, then you are not better than the criminal. We live in a world where the justice system should take care of this and when you mess with that you end up with a pile of dead bodies cause it your right to own a gun for protection. So it all starts with how you look at guns and how practice the gun-culture and gun-laws….so if america what to be concidered as a part of the real civilized-world you should take your cititzens security serriously and ban guns for protection and start schooling people in gun-culture that do not include execution of a human life… it called progress and evolution.

(pardon my english, its my second language…but hope it made some sense)