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  • Swim thinks GHB should be sold and regulated, and not allowed to the general public with overly easy access at any store.

    There should be responsible purchase, and proof of age, and terms, which should be signed at places that carry ghb, possibly pharmacies, so that irresponsible usage can be either traced to the negligence of the buyer or the fact that someone stole the supply.

    It should go for about 50-70 bucks for a tub of powder, about 90 to 100 grams (this would limit ghb to about 2.5 to 3 grams a night, once a day, for a month’s supply-a medium to decent dose), to be mixed.

    There should be a tax on it, like with alcohol and tobacco, to let the Government have its cut.

    None of the analogues should be easily available (this is where GHB actually starts to become dangerous; when people irresponsibly mess with these analogues) to minors or to just any idiot who walks in off the street. It should be locked behind a glass counter, not on shelves to be stolen, or obtainable by prescription, through a pharmacy as a sleep aid and as a muscle relaxant and gh potentiator for gym rats; it shouldn’t be overly hard to get for someone who is willing to sign a waiver and a contract.

    It has definite benefits. Only a certain amount per month should be allowed per individual; the sharing of ghb to anyone, and usage other than by the user him or herself should be causal for a ban, which would make it impossible to obtain a prescription for at least 5 years or more, thus, limiting the joy of sharing this chemical and using too much; people may violate this, but at their own expense, it should also be too expensive for the average person to buy and want to just give it away to other people who aren’t able to buy their own.

    GBL and 1, 4 BD should be banned to individual usage and heavily monitored; only available to companies, who will have to sign for a purchase from specialty store in America, that way it can’t be made. Plus, the precursors should be more expensive than the GHB itself, thus not giving anyone ideas, and not making it worth it to just make ones own GHB. It should be this way in every country.

    Example: GBL or Butanediol should go for 5-10 us dollars a mililiter, and should only be able to be written off as a business expense for companies which use the chemical, in other words, 500ml of gbl, or 1, 4 b would be $2500.00 to a business who could completely write it off, but way too expensive for individual purchase, and the price too astronomical for street ghb, per dose, for feasible, illegal production (it’s just not that popular, and with the duration of any decent euphoric experience with it, one would have to pay more than 30 dollars for 3 to 4 hours of being high (hardly worth it!).

    This stuff really has a place and has helped swim with terrible social fears, and has helped him come out of years of emotional illness, and helped him control and even know to control his emotions and be calmer, even when off of g for a while. People shouldn’t be drinking cleaners.

    Even GBL makes the kidneys burn and it is noticed that it isn’t all that good for you. Plus, when you have injested the precursors, you get a distinct body oder, which people notice, and comes back fast, even after washing. The shit isn’t good for people.

    Bring back GHB, and just be smart about it. Don’t limit it to people only with cataplexy; hardly anyone has this; this stuff treats long held emotional illness. It can be dangerous to abusers. It should be illegal to have the precursors and illegal to import. GHB, if not sold in health food stores, should be available by just asking for it from your doctor, and signing for it and getting a prescription, and paying a decent price for it.

    It is very helpful. Yes, it is addictive though, and should be controlled.

    If it is limited to people who can afford it and who are getting it from a doctor, then the potential date-rape scene could be easily traced to a handful of people who frequent bars, or know people who frequent bars. But this shit is not date-rape material: Butanediol will ruin any drink with a solvent, plastic, soap taste; GBL will make a drink taste like drinking nail polish water; GHB is overly noticeable in most drinks as terribly salty.

    And all of this at only a small portion, with just 1.5 – 2.5 ml, which isn’t a Hefty dose by any means. It, maybe, is a willful date-rape drug, if someone were to willfully take too much, or at least willfully drink ghb, and someone put too much in on purpose.

    That is a terrible episode, but shit happens! Shit happens with many things. This chemical makes one feel younger and happier at regular, small doses. At higher doses and abuse it makes one become and asshole and feel kind of sickly. Anyway, why don’t people put in a petition like this to the government and press the issue until voices are heard and agreements are made between the people and the government; isn’t the government people anyway. It is good for government to regulate something with the potential to screw up society, but the abundant stories from people who have actually used a drug should be considered and a compromise should be made.

    No one speaks up; just the people who have never tried the drug and have been made overly fearful. Also, people who have tried certain drugs should be honest too, not just mentioning the good effects, but listing the bad effects, so that grounds for proper, non-domineering control can be made over substances; this way not constricting of the natural, ancient right of human beings and “all animals” to self-medicate, and find and used medication, drugs, and medicinal herbs to treat themselves, causing people to turn to illegal means to obtaining a banned substance. It is the ancient, and, or spiritual (religious) right to take substances of all human beings…

    If one traces the heritage back of any ethnic group, one will find that somewhere along the line, their ancestors used certain substances for religious and medical purposes. It is an infraction against the rights of people, especially in any Country which gives people the freedom of religion and expression. Anything that is used should also be thoroughly studied and authoritative assertion made that a drug is harmless, or minimally with non-abuse.

    Wow, been thinking about this for a while have you?

    wow that’s a whole lot of bother when you can make it so easily in the comfort of your own home.

    gbl should be unregulated, ghb should be unregulated, the state should stop being such a nanny and when young timmy dies, timmys parents should ADMIT THEY FAILED not run around crying it’s everyone elses fault.

    ghb is perfectly safe if used responsibly. irresponsible people who fuck up should be viewed as a sad shame, but ultimately their own fault and it’s not the governments job to wipe everyones arses – despite what the government seems to think.

    neither that or your plan will ever happen, sorry.

    partypete;246600 wrote:
    wow that’s a whole lot of bother when you can make it so easily in the comfort of your own home.

    gbl should be unregulated, ghb should be unregulated, the state should stop being such a nanny and when young timmy dies, timmys parents should ADMIT THEY FAILED not run around crying it’s everyone elses fault.

    ghb is perfectly safe if used responsibly. irresponsible people who fuck up should be viewed as a sad shame, but ultimately their own fault and it’s not the governments job to wipe everyones arses – despite what the government seems to think.

    neither that or your plan will ever happen, sorry.

    Mmmmm a lot of other things I would rather see about other than this stuff!!

    starlaugh;246606 wrote:
    Mmmmm a lot of other things I would rather see about other than this stuff!!

    I agree, GHB is wank imo.

    Pretty addictive as well.

    no i think thats a foolish idea unless you are talking about the legalization (or at least de-criminalization) of all drugs in which case short answer no long answer yes.

    shit thread IMO

    because it’s a shit drug with a relatively high mortality rate and it has no therapeutic purpose

    you’d actually be better off using herion or other opiates, in terms of safety and buzz

    elretardo87;246955 wrote:
    Pretty addictive as well.
    globalloon;247007 wrote:
    because it’s a shit drug with a relatively high mortality rate and it has no therapeutic purpose

    you’d actually be better off using herion or other opiates, in terms of safety and buzz

    I’ve seen someone physically and psychologically addicted detox off of GBL (diferent but similar derrivative)

    horrrendous +++++,

    psychotic – visual and auditory hallucinations, dellusional, emotionally labile, very very vulnerable, sexually disinhibited ++ , awake and on the move for 5 days and nights despite up to approx 180mg diazepam (split doses) in each 24 hour period – exhausted physically and mentally but mind still 100% to the dozen
    head injury from ‘neck snaps’ too

    far far safer to have an opiate detox in terms of withdrawals and saftey

    @Tank Girl 247024 wrote:

    I’ve seen someone physically and psychologically addicted detox off of GBL (diferent but similar derrivative)

    horrrendous +++++,

    psychotic – visual and auditory hallucinations, dellusional, emotionally labile, very very vulnerable, sexually disinhibited ++ , awake and on the move for 5 days and nights despite up to approx 180mg diazepam (split doses) in each 24 hour period – exhausted physically and mentally but mind still 100% to the dozen
    head injury from ‘neck snaps’ too

    far far safer to have an opiate detox in terms of withdrawals and saftey

    that sounds totally accurate

    about a year ago i saw someone at a party offering “glasses of water” to all the young women at a party but the 2l bottle he was pouring from had a label that read “slut juice”

    needless to say we ejected him

    globalloon;247031 wrote:
    that sounds totally accurate

    about a year ago i saw someone at a party offering “glasses of water” to all the young women at a party but the 2l bottle he was pouring from had a label that read “slut juice”

    needless to say we ejected him

    with a kicking to the neither regions I hope :hopeless:






    they’re isnt much medical knowledge in the uk about ‘how to’ detox some one –
    most of it comes from the US at the mo, and is just benzo’s in an attempt to slow them down and reduce the stress on their heart

    but it is becoming an increasing problem in the UK,

    thing is you have no memory yourself of the actual detox process or your behaviour and are most likley to be unwilling to believe peoples reports – unless they video you – and that raises all types of issues for consent etc so you finally get to sleep after day 5 or day 6 and feel better and 100% by day 8 and go home and start it all over again

    @Tank Girl 247036 wrote:

    with a kicking to the neither regions I hope :hopeless:

    mate he was appropriately dealt with. i had to look away towards the end because i can’t stand the sight :yakk:

    I hate violence and am not a big scarey bloke but would probably have joined in, TBH a good thing I don’t encounter scum like that at our local parties or I would be in Norwich, Chelmsford or even Belmarsh by now..

    globalloon;247043 wrote:
    mate he was appropriately dealt with. i had to look away towards the end because i can’t stand the sight :yakk:
    General Lighting;247047 wrote:
    I hate violence and am not a big scarey bloke but would probably have joined in, TBH a good thing I don’t encounter scum like that at our local parties or I would be in Norwich, Chelmsford or even Belmarsh by now..

    shame to say –

    but sometimes violence is the only ‘language’ these c*nts understand :hopeless:

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