@Tocooltom 416680 wrote:
For example, since the summer last year there have been 4 big parties on private land in norfolk with not a single hint of trouble from OB, and there will be many more to come.
if they are genuinely smaller events with permission/tolerance of the local inhabitants then the cops won’t lock them off, people have even done this in Suffolk! its a gamble though as all it takes is for a few locals to disagree with the rave, call 999 and cops will turn up, although if it is genuinely a private party the most they can do is ask for noise levels to be reduced.
Since the budget cuts due to the recession, i hav not seen a single riot copper in norfolk, so that just proves they cant afford to deal with shutting parties down by force.
Cops had budget cuts long before the recession started. they were having their budgets cut in 2006/7/8 even during zero tolerance.
its not that they can’t afford to deploy “riot cops” – they are the same cops as your local bobby just in more robust uniform. Some are even Specials who to the job for free!
The Police authority has an endless pot of taxpayers money in varrious contingency funds. They can and do use the emergency/anti-terrorism budget against raves as there isn’t much serious racial violence or terrorism in East Anglia, which is of course otherwise a good thing.
It cost a lot of money to chase after the scum who were killing prostitutes in Ipswich but society found the money and caught the criminals.
Its more most ravers are good natured and if they pack up when told and/or don’t resist the Police there is no need to use riot cops against them. Especially when they don’t want to nick all 150 people anyway and/or have people getting hurt/bad publicity, they already have their targets in mind from the intelligence they have gathered from places like Farcebook..
Cops in the UK aren’t that fascist either. They do give younger people / teenagers a chance especially if they otherwise lead decent lives and aren’t involved in other crime. Otherwise I would have got locked up when I was in my late teens/20s for some of the things I did back then.
but if/when they find out ravers are selling significant amounts of drugs or robbing stuff to fund new or replacement sound equipment (as opposed to having proper jobs), thats when things start getting heavy, especially as wider society has to pick up the pieces. round my way although some people got unfairly and unjustly targeted, others got in trouble with the cops because they were already in trouble for other stuff, some of it quite nasty like robbing other young people or other violent acts. Even then they gave people a lot of chances. The Suffolk zero tolerance started in 2005 but it was 2007 before the cops really started going in heavy as ravers were being stubborn and taking the piss, especially being slack about clearups.
The old skool local rigs of the 1990s/2000s survived because they were genuinely there for the music, packed up at sensible times, their crew members all had jobs and couldn’t be linked to drug deals or other bad shit, and they cleared up after themselves so the locals didn’t dob them is as much..
one thing to be aware of though is the current Government want to privatise Thetford Forest…
