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@p0ly 494916 wrote:
think salvia is a really hard plant to grow and even find the seeds to plant it as far as i’m aware.
Yeah apparently easy to grow, used to know someone that had a small forrest of it in his garden. Think its a member of the mint family and mint is easy enough to grow.
seems like a mdma thead has become a salvia thead… however i love mdma once every now and then (2-3month gap) can’t hurt anyone can it?… its always good to be safe though, if you think you have it, check pill reports etc. if you cant find any info test it first before taking it.
Hey guys, I’m doing an experiment for my dissertation at uni, in psychology. I’m beginning testing today, for the next couple weeks. Its really interesting and on the potential benefits of MDMA use. We need MDMA users for participants. You earn £10 for taking part. Message if you’re interested!
If you did not try it before you die, then your existence would have been half-wasted.
I Hope u reagent test it.i only do mdma shards.i haven’t took a pill in a long time,way to many bunk pills.i just swallow 125-150mgs but usually use it in combo with a hallucinogen
Ecstasy: Is it as bad as they say?
Drugs have been used throughout history in almost every country, usually for spirtitual enlightenment or medicinal use. The Native Americans used peyote in Texas and Mexico in 1000 B.C. while in Guatemala the use of “magic mushrooms” or Psilocybin as it is scientifically known as was prevalent in use from 1000-500 B.C.
As with cannabis, it was used as early as 6000 B.C. in China as a food source and opium was regularly used in Egypt and the Middle East as far back as 1300 B.C. (Erowid, 2, 3, 4, 7). Drugs have always started out legal, usually with the thought that they could be used medicinally until either the malpractice of the drug is overwhelming usually amongst teenagers and young adults or there just aren’t any purposes for the narcotic as a medicinal product. This is the case with cannabis, LSD, GHB, Methamphetamine, and hundreds of others, including one commonly known as Ecstasy.
Ecstasy, the common club drug which is known by its scientific name MDMA (3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine) goes by many slang terms, a few examples of this are: Adam, Beans, “E”, Eccy, Pills, Rolls, “X,” and Molly which is the slang term for pure MDMA crystals. Ecstasy has increasingly become more and more of a problem for the DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration) to control. It started out as a miracle antidote for traumatized and emotionally distraught people but subsequently was introduced to the dance scene and went awry, soon after being banned by the DEA.
The problem with banning the drug was that it didn’t stop anything; in fact it increased the chemical’s recreational use dramatically.
The banning of Ecstasy doesn’t stop the fact that it is being used regularly at local clubs, house parties, and raves. By 1993 there was a rave scene in almost every state in the country. And that meant that there was Ecstasy in almost every state in the country. Well what is a rave then? A rave is a culture “that’s 50% based on music and 50% based on a drug (Jennings, 2004).”
But more specifically a rave is a congregation of people of every race and religion unified together in a neo-hippie gathering where there is no fighting, no hatred, and everyone is friendly towards each other. In fact the raver motto is PLUR (Peace, Love, Unity, and Respect) which was coined by Frankie Bones, the “godfather” of rave from Britain. The acronym was introduced by Bones in NY in the late 80’s as he explained what the scene was about and why he had brought it to NY.
On top of this there’s repetitive dance music commonly called techno but more socially accepted amongst ravers as “electronic dance music” blaring in the background. Electronic dance music floods out of speakers at an almost unbearable 140+ beats per minute, and it rarely slows down. The music, in cahoots with strobe lights, lasers, and mist creates a wonderful environment to dance in and as with the scene there has to be a certain genre of people who go: ravers. Ravers are commonly known as “candy kids” due to their abundance of colorful clothing and bracelets that manifest their image.
There is no doubt why Ecstasy is such a popular drug amongst teens and young adults these days, the feeling you get while “rolling” which is the common term for being high on E, is second to none.
Users report feelings of extreme mood lifts, an increased willingness to talk to others, amplified visual intensity, stimulation (increase in energy), ego softening (you don’t care so much about what people think of you and you’re more open), feelings of love and empathy, forgiveness, an increase in appreciation of music, and a dramatically increased sensation from physical touch (Erowid – 6). What makes it even more desired is its relatively inexpensive cost (anywhere from $12-$25 a pill), easy accessibility, and that it doesn’t give you a “dopey” feeling (the feeling usually associated with cannabis or other downers; basically it doesn’t make you feel stupid).
Another liked feature about this chemical is the fact that it doesn’t produce any physically addictive properties, though it can have a great importance in the lives of people and can be used too much (Dancesafe, 2005). Probably the best feature of this drug is it’s low risk factor, the chances of overdosing on MDMA is slim to none, as reported in Ecstasy Rising: of 19,000 accidental deaths in NYC in 2003, 22 deaths were reported to be Ecstasy related while only 2 were Ecstasy alone. At this rate you have a greater chance of dieing from a prescribed medication than you do on dieing on E (Jennings, 2004).
Unfortunately wherever there is a good thing, there must be a downside to it. Immediate use of E can result in many minor physical ailments that can lead to worse things. The first thing that happens while “rolling” is that mild to extreme jaw clenching can occur; also associate with this is biting of the cheeks and gums without feeling the pain, so the following day it might be a bit difficult to eat.
A few more problems are short term memory scramble and confusion, temporary erectile dysfunction, nausea and vomiting, dehydration (if you don’t drink water), increase in body temperature, hyponatremia (if you over drink), and lastly a possibly strong urge to repeat the experience (though it isn’t physically addictive). Longer lasting effects, usually lasting up to a week afterwards consist of mild depression and fatigue (Erowid – 6).
Another serious risk with doing Ecstasy is the fact that you truly don’t have any way of knowing what is in your pills. As MDMA is fairly expensive to synthesize, many times alternative chemicals are used in the making of the pills. Substances such as crystal methamphetamine, 2c-i, Ketamine, MDE, MDA, Ephedrine, caffiene and the dreaded PMA (a lethal chemical) are commonly used as fillers in pills.
The problem with this is that if you don’t know what you’re getting and you take three pills and it turns out to be Crystal Meth or PMA it could lead to serious internal injury and death. Users buy testing kits that enable them to see if their pills contain dangerous chemicals, also many websites are dedicated to identifying pills.
As drastic as all this might seem to a non-Ecstasy user, it is obvious that even with all the bad, the pros still beat out the cons.
MDMA was first synthesized accidentally in 1912 by the German pharmaceutical company Merck; yes, the same company who distributed Vioxx not acknowledging the fact that it caused heart failure in many people and led to the deaths of approximately 139,000 people (Associated Press, 2005). After realizing it had no real potential for medical use it was hidden in an archive.
Fifty-three years later Alexander Shulgin retrieved the blueprints and synthesized the chemical known as MDMA; and within three years he tested it on himself. He named it “Window” because he thought that it showed you a window of what things are really like.
Eventually he began to introduce others to Window, primarily psychologists that thought that it was a brilliant medicine that could be used to get in touch with one’s inner-self; after being used in group psychology sessions it was named Empathy for the feelings of empathy that were intensified on the drug.
By 1977, MDMA began to hit the streets as a recreational drug giving it the official name Ecstasy. The first reported death was published in 1987 and within a year MDMA was dubbed a schedule I drug (a schedule I drug is a drug that has no medicinal value in the U.S. and also has the highest addiction and abuse potential (Weidner, 2001-2004).
With Ecstasy being a schedule I drug, the penalty for being caught with possession of Ecstasy goes as follows: being caught with MDMA is punishable by seven years in prison and a fine, while being caught in possession of MDMA with the intent to sell is punishable by life in prison (Anglia Campus, 2005). But other than the occasional drug bust the use of Ecstasy is not stopping and there are in fact approximately two million new recruitments to the drug every year.
With Ecstasy out of control in the states, the government attempted to take action – with propaganda. In 1998 the DEA decided to sponsor Dr. George Ricardi of John Hopkins University to do a study pertaining to the effects that Ecstasy had on the brain.
With Ricardi’s research complete he published his final results. His research showed that when a person takes one single recreational dose of Ecstasy it reduced the brain’s serotonin (chemical in the brain that regulates mood, appetite, sleep, and emotion) by 50-85% which was then irreversible. With this information out, NIDA (National Institute on Drug Abuse) produced a pamphlet labeled, “Your Brain on Ecstasy,” the image shown was that of a brain with a line cutting down the middle of it.
On the left side was the label, “Your Brain Before Ecstasy” with a full, healthy looking brain. On the right side were the words, “Your Brain After Ecstasy,” which was visually portrayed as a shriveled, hole infested lump. The image was supposed to show the serotonin depletion after a dose of MDMA but as Dr. Stephen Kish (who is the world’s leading researcher studying the brain) said, “The problem with these index cards given to young people by NIDA is that the brain scan pictures of the Ecstasy users looks like there are large holes in the brain, and that’s just not true.
But for me the main problem with the index cards was that it was based on faulty data (Jennings, 2004).” That is where the myth was born that Ecstasy causes holes in the brain. In 2002, Ricardi performed another government funded study on the effects MDMA had on the brain. This test was to prove that one tablet of Ecstasy could cause Parkinson’s disease in the individual. His test was performed on monkeys, by injecting them with what was allegedly a single dose of “Ecstasy.” His verdict: Ecstasy can lead to Parkinsonism.
Dr. Kish was right; there was faulty data in the 1998 Ricardi study. The first obvious fault in his study was the fact that from the subjects he used to test, it could not have been certain whether or not they had ever even used MDMA in their lives because there was no hair sample (hair samples are used to test for drug use over a long period of time). The second major issue that’s prevalent is that during his testing, Ricardi noted that some brains had almost 40x more serotonin than others, “scientists say such a variation is simply impossible (Jennings, 2004).”
After being disproved by Kish he retracted his 2002 statement that said that Ecstasy can lead to Parkinson’s disease by saying “[he] mistakenly gave methamphetamines, a far more toxic substance than Ecstasy, to the monkeys he used in the study (Jennings, 2003).”
But there is a study that is a lot closer to the truth then that of Ricardi’s. In 2003 a gathering of German scientists decided to do a study that would show the truth about the effects that MDMA had on the brain. The difference between the studies was that hair samples were taken to confirm the subjects’ use of the drug. The results of the study were as followed.
Taking a single dose of Ecstasy didn’t reduce the serotonin by 85% but in fact lowered it only by a mere 4-5%. Better yet after approximately two to three months following the use of the Ecstasy, the serotonin was replenished; it wasn’t irreversible like Ricardi had stated a few years prior. To this date, this is the study that is used for reference (Jennings, 2004).
Ecstasy isn’t a dangerous drug; Ecstasy is a wonderful chemical that’s changed the lives of many people emotionally, spiritually, and mentally. They are able to appreciate the new meaning for the word LOVE through an artificial reality. MDMA is so powerful and so important that it consequently started an entire generation of kids that lasted for over 10 years and is still going: the ravers.
Ecstasy truly isn’t as harmful as the media makes it out to be, and myths have further demonized it to a heroin-esque level. With the help of unbiased scientific data we are able to clearly see the effects it has on our brain which can enable us as Americans to make educated decisions pertaining to the use of Ecstasy.
Maybe in time the government will see the beneficial effects the chemical has on people and will reconsider its classification, but until then, rave on.
Hi, just wanted some advice, been away from the party scene for ages now, but planning a big weekend in August. Used to take pills, but from reading posts on this site it seems things have moved on since then!! is crystal MDMA what i should be getting now? Can someone tell me what it should look like, how much i should pay for it and how much i should take!! All advice appreciated, thank you xxx
@susi g 563561 wrote:
Hi, just wanted some advice, been away from the party scene for ages now, but planning a big weekend in August. Used to take pills, but from reading posts on this site it seems things have moved on since then!! is crystal MDMA what i should be getting now? Can someone tell me what it should look like, how much i should pay for it and how much i should take!! All advice appreciated, thank you xxx
buy a test kit. 100-120mg is a dose.
@susi g 563561 wrote:
Hi, just wanted some advice, been away from the party scene for ages now, but planning a big weekend in August. Used to take pills, but from reading posts on this site it seems things have moved on since then!! is crystal MDMA what i should be getting now? Can someone tell me what it should look like, how much i should pay for it and how much i should take!! All advice appreciated, thank you xxx
Pills still go around, people would just rather chuck MDMA in tissue or paper and swallow it that way, seems to be a bit more reliable than pills (Asin its easier to get adulterated pills)
Should be clear to light yellow but in reality its going to be a bit brown, if its a very tan colour or something weird its likely you’ve picked up an analog of MDMA or something, you should really test but in real life probably about <5% actually do..
Onto price, price can usually be a good indicator of quality, some people will rip you off just cause they think they can though.. Be prepared to pay anywhere from 25 quid to 90 quid for a gram..
Seeing as you’ve had a while off, start back with something like 120 – 160MG, if its good quality stuff you will be rolling for hours, pills for me hit harder, but aren’t really as euphoric, you wont hallucinate much off real MDMA either.
Thanks, will be aiming to get crystal, but tbh anything will do! Just want to get out there and dance!! Will let you all know how it goes xxx
Crystal mdma and pills have all been a big disappointment for my pet tiger. The best of the best stuff the tiger has obtained has been mediocre in comparison to what he was used to in the late 90’s having good times at beyond beach Babylon. My tiger has not touched anything until this year and knows that he has been sold nothing but junk that is more probably more dangerous than the real deal.
The 90’s effect:
Amazing rushes before the peak (after 30mins up to 60mins)
Felt so orgasmic on peak, could barely meow for a good 10 to 20mins on peak and the cats around knew to give a hug that’s how they felt too
Huge pupils
Eye wiggles
Mild visuals/tracers
All the other cats looked amazing (almost like everycat had been airbrushed)
Teeth grinding
Dancing on all four paws, music is just soooo good and the tiger’s heart beat seems to match the tunes
Smoking a tab felt like inhaling silk
Massive loved up feeling (even the Wilderbeast would get a hug)
Running fingers through ones fur felt orgasmic
A tigers tail would have major wag difficulty and usually quite hard to find (it is down there somewhere, I swear!) 🙁
Difficult to get a cat nap.
My tiger would be feeling a happy afterglow well towards the middle of the next day
Having a second night out would also be amazing, less love/orgasm, but still amazing. Looking back my tiger knows that this was a bit of a waste because the love/orgasm is the reason this substance got the name ecstasy. However, a decent gap (a month) and you would be right back up there. Nothing was ever as good as the very first time. But every go was pretty much as good as the second/third time.
My tiger used to enjoy mixing this with small amounts of alcohol sometimes, although this would make it difficult to hold conversations. A nice spliff always helped at the end of the night and might even helped develop some visuals.
The 2014 effect:
Feel some rush (taken 30mins to 2hrs before feeling them) but no actual point the cat can say there is a peak, the rushes just stop.
Some pupil dilation (can tell my tiger has taken something)
Paws tap to music but no urge to dance, but music does seem more enhanced.
Chatty to people you know but inhibitions to talk to other cats is there.
My tiger would be quite bored after 2hrs of feeling like this.
A cat nap would be difficult.
A tail wag would not be to difficult.
Smoking a tab felt more like sand paper than silk.
Any afterglow had obviously been replaced by knowledge of a waste of time and money.
Another go within less than 3 weeks would produce virtually no effects at all.
The feeling is definitely not what I consider to be a feeling of ecstasy. I guess you have to have sampled ecstasy to know ecstasy.
I guess the other cats leaving good reports on forums have taken enough of this stuff to feel fucked but have no idea that making love is a totally different experience to fucking!
My tiger know thinks that he has sampled enough of these highly potent dutch pills containing 130mg or 220mg of mdma and crystal from enough places to be sure that the market is flooded with junk. Even some of the research chemicals that have come and gone in recent years have given a better, more 90’s, effect. Definitely time to move on and give up on the ecstasy dream.
Xxxx
This thread have nothingt to do with your skype sex.
so pleace go away.
other than dangerous PMA pills (a relatively small overdose can be fatal); most pills and crystal MDMA are legiit. What has changed is folk have got older; and communities less friendlier. In my town if I wanted to take that sort of stuff I’d have to go to some venue that wasn’t right for that type of event and share the space with pissheads and even those who have taken pills but are still simmering with anger/resentment about stuff what happened elsewhete in their lives; which makes for a toxic combination.
if you started in the 90s don’t forget that it was a time when there wasnt any war over oil; the economy was booming, you could get a well paid job doing relatively little if you knew just something about computers. It was this what created a situation where cops/govt didn’t hassle people for party drugs used snd turned a blind eye to rampant drug use and dealing and disregard of property rights (such as taking over fields for raves). In this sort of environment its not surprising things were more euphoirc.
never tried
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