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@Raj 451791 wrote:

The thread stays poly – its instructive for others.

If you are so sure none of us know what we are talking about then by all means carry on sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting so you can’t hear us. You said yourself you knew what response you would get here so its a mystery why you posted this at all.

If you want someone to reinforce your view that smack is not bad you know where those people are – PV members are not those people just in case you were in any doubt.

Excuse me for caring about you – obviously this is unwelcome and I won’t bother wasting my time any further

well said i was thinking exactly the same thing. Why post this shit when you know what people (in general i mean) will say?

I however dont share others points of view on this matter, H doesnt necessarily lead to addiction, only if you let it. I wanna try H some day but im a pussy when it comes to needles, i know i could smoke it but again i hate smoking lol so im pretty well fucked haha

I just want to try most things once in life and this is one of them.

Hello to you too p0ly.

Look at that skag head bum sitting on the side of the road begging, now look at yourself, then look back at the bum. See what i did there?

Just ask yourself is that what you want?

I find this attitude to smack very disturbing poly – I have lost many friends to the stuff. Everyone I ever heard make the starting statement you made in opening this thread became an addict without exception. Some may have taken longer than others but the bottom line is every single one of them is an addict or dead. Have seen a few make a recovery but years of their lives were lost to smack before that happened and their health has suffered as a direct result.
I hope you don’t end up there – it would be nice to say I knew someone who had used it over a longish period without being addicted but I won’t be holding out much hope as all the evidence I have seen personally is against it.

For me smack is in the same group as ketamine and alcohol – all dissociatives abused to numb emotional pain. They are all destructive in long term use and leave you ill-equipped to cope with reality as the rest of the world experiences it. When you use them you disconnect from the world and it turns off all the emotional information which is a normal part of life. When all that comes back on after being turned off for a long period it can be very hard to handle and so people go and take more. It silences your mental noise but the cost to your health can be serious and permanent. Been there, done that, dont recommend it and wouldnt like to see any more friends lost to it. There are less damaging ways of dealing with the mental noise and emotional problems and which don’t rely on external crutches.

Your behaviour when you have taken it is noticeably different btw – I recognised the behaviour before you admitted to having used the stuff on the board. If I can notice it from the other side of a text based communication then be sure others will notice it in real life – the behavioural differences last beyond the buzz wearing off.

I didn’t say you were going down the pan to it poly; read what I said more carefully ➡

I said I am not going to hold out much hope.

This is not a reflection on you as much as all the other people I have heard say these things. :hopeless: I had thought I made that pretty clear.

The angry reaction when I or someone else says something you don’t want to hear is not going to make me think smack is less dangerous and its also not going to convince me that you aren’t on a slippery slope to a hellish place – quite the opposite. 🙁

I try not to remember how many times people have shouted at me about how their drug of choice is not really that addictive and that they are in control of it not the other way round when I have expressed concern about their drug use. They wanted me to compliment them on their self control when their lives were unravelling around them, their families were suffering and they looked like walking corpses – in short they wanted a yes man.

Disagreement was unwelcome and aggressively objected to then as well – much as I feel you have reacted when pv’ers did not share your opinion.
Never mind a cool and critical discussion of the subject – you ranted that we were all biased and did not know what we were on about.
You did not stop to ascertain what, if any, personal experiences coloured our responses and whether we were victims of media spin as you claimed or had a more intimate knowledge of what you were talking about. What came across was an attitude of ‘I know better than any of you and your opinions don’t count for shit’ – breathtaking arrogance and really a pretty disrespectful attitude generally.

..and you got an answer that didn’t fit you….hmmm