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July 25, 2006 at 6:54 am

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Louis Theroux

@louis-theroux

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wickedwreckage wrote:

I’D LIKE TO EXPLAIN ALL PROBLEMS I HAD WITH “H” FOR TEN YEARS,BUT
IT WOULD BE TOO HARD IN ENGLISH.I’M CLEAN FOR FIVE YEARS YET,BUT
ALWAYS FEEL SHE’S THERE…
:sick_toot:sick_toot:sick_toot

A lot of us understand french…
July 25, 2006 at 8:06 am

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Agent Subby

@agent-subby

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fbar wrote:

My grandmother was a junkie and raised 5 kids alone in the 1930’s. A nicer lady you could not meet. 70 per cent of junkies are functional, have a job morgage etc. because it is illegal and therefore expensive causes most of the problems. Heroin is dirt cheap in real life. You cannot win the war on drugs, or as it should be called the war on plants. Doctors have a large per cent of narcotic users in their midst. They give you methadon to quit heroin and that drug is bad on your body. Heroin is actually fairly easy on your body. Humans seek drugs as part of their deep sense of exploration. You can become physically addicted after a weeks use. Something has to change with the war on drugs it cannot be won. Some countries heroin is legal, but their culture is different than ours, and they don’t have a problem.

Try telling this to the Home Office, who insist that ‘we’ have to take a more addictive and more poisonous ‘alternative’. YES you are right, diamorphine is fairly easy on the body and dirt cheap to boot.raaa raaa
July 25, 2006 at 8:30 am

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General Lighting

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true – when opiates (and other recreational drugs) were legally and more easily available through pharmacies (until about the 1930s) there was far less social damage.

Although people did still get addicted to both heroin and cocaine and some would lie cheat and steal to get their stash, the level of criminality involved was far less than it is today – in other words you would only have the shoplifting and petty theft to deal with rather than organised criminal gangs bringing in not just drugs but often people and weapons/ordnance across borders.

It may seem abhorrent to the puritans and nannies but that is all that society can hope for – a “least worst” case. There’s also the hipocrisy in Great Britain over how opiates and recreational drugs were used to subdue the populations of other countries in order to build the Empire (this accounts for the overly harsh penalties in some Eastern Countries)

Most drug users aren’t that evil and when they realise their use is affecting others do want to change. But if they are always treated like scum they will fight back; and commiting crime is one way of doing so.

Trying to force people not to seek pleasure not only fails, but makes them angry and more likely to fight back against society that restricts them…
July 25, 2006 at 8:05 pm

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somna

@somna

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Agent Subby wrote:

Try telling this to the Home Office, who insist that ‘we’ have to take a more addictive and more poisonous ‘alternative’. YES you are right, diamorphine is fairly easy on the body and dirt cheap to boot.raaa raaa

very true – when prescribed. but instead of doing that, they leave us to buy the crap cut to peces on the street which funds so many other evils, and costs a lot more (financially and morally)
July 25, 2006 at 8:21 pm

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Raj

@raj

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somna wrote:

very true – when prescribed. but instead of doing that, they leave us to buy the crap cut to peces on the street which funds so many other evils, and costs a lot more (financially and morally)

and if they bought out the entire opium poppy crop it would be way cheaper than the measures to prevent its illegal distribution in this country alone:you_crazy

:weee:how is it going somna?
July 25, 2006 at 9:43 pm

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Agent Subby

@agent-subby

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somna wrote:

very true – when prescribed. but instead of doing that, they leave us to buy the crap cut to peces on the street which funds so many other evils, and costs a lot more (financially and morally)

And the worst of it all as well somna, is that it would be soooooooo much easier to reduce off gear than it ever will to reduce and stay off Subutex. I was completely mis-led when prescribed this so called wonder drug:cry:

It makes me think sometimes whether these quacks at the CDT’s have bought shares in the pharmaceutical companies that produce this poison?
Ah well, one things for sure and that’s I’m in a much better position now than what i was in a year ago:groucho: :groucho:

:bounce_fl :bounce_fl :bounce_fl :bounce_fl :bounce_fl :bounce_fl
BTW hope you are well and keeping on top of it:wink:
July 26, 2006 at 1:43 pm

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somna

@somna

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All so sadly true:cry:
and I am going good, ta. Looks like I have a place at rehab, just need to wait and see if the judge lets me go. should know on the 4th. Cheers for asking.:flowers:
July 26, 2006 at 2:07 pm

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Agent Subby

@agent-subby

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somna wrote:

All so sadly true:cry:
and I am going good, ta. Looks like I have a place at rehab, just need to wait and see if the judge lets me go. should know on the 4th. Cheers for asking.:flowers:

Good luck on the 4th:flowers:

Keep us informed how you go on:wink:
August 7, 2006 at 9:33 pm

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DJ-DSS

@dj-dss

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Theres no easy way to say it but its true, Abstinance is the key. Ive never met a recreational Herion user, only for about 3 months. Then they either stop or like me in my past fall into the long list of numbers that eventually end up in the doctors chair asking for help…..

The only thing that keeps me clean is abstinance. Its not the 2nd or 3rd hit tht puts me back and it took 6 yrs to work this out (somtimes slowly sometimes quickerly lol)

Its the first one, as thats the one that sets the craving off for the next one and heres a little story to contemplate….

So id been a yr off everything and i mean it all…. nothing, only caffene and nicotene had been in my system….

And im thinking fuck this life im bored i struggel on with myself getting more resentful over th days (doing nothing constructive about it…. called Budding for a fix in thearaputic terms….)

Anyhow about 3/4 weeks later it seems like a gud idea to go over to clapham common north side and meet up with an old mate who had recently fallen off the wagon himself, not that i had seen him for a gud few months like…..u know catch up??? Catch up on what he was using again and had nothing new to tell me or talk about and when he wasnt using he was thinking or getting the money to use….. but still it seemed liek a gud idea……
( see the thinking and bullshitting in my head..a gud idea?????..)

So off i trot over the common and nock on his door stratigically timed to arrive in the morning ( knowing hell need a fix more than anything….) as i told myself hell deffo be in……

So withint minutes as i already knew he wud (but tried to be in denial about) he was making excuses to leave, a couple of minutes later when he confessed the sudden need to leave i told him to take the extra tenner i came with and get me a bag at the same time or get himself a quater g and sort me some out….

of course he did and made himeself a nice bag for less doe….

So heres where it gets interesting…..

So ive had a couple of lines my nose is itching to fuck and im scratching….
he needs to go out now hes not in withdrawl and make more money for the imminent 3/4 hours later when its wearing off…..
so i have to leave…. i do…
i go home and do what i intended to do all along and already premiditated over 2 months ago but was denying to myself for the next 2 months i get waisted IV…..

so the next day comes and seen as ive been clean for over a year im obviously not withdrawing……

however, the mental side of addiction has kicked in…..
ive released the memory or herion….. and the OBSESSION to use it on me
big time……

i even feel like im clucking untill i convince myself i cant be as it impossible…..

2 days go by and i dont use….. But th eobbsession is HUGE…..

so day 3 comes and i think….. its ok im not addicted and ive had 2 days off ******HERE IS WHY ONE IS ALL IT TAKES********

of course the rest is history and soon i cant controll the mental obbsession and ive given in…..

And i never understood why they say ” Total Abstinance ” is the only way to defete this….

I always though i could do it on occasion… Never successeded so my solution is never to do it again…

A day at a time im succsseding. And i will keep on going. That beast in my head I created nearly killed me….
August 7, 2006 at 10:19 pm

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Agent Subby

@agent-subby

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Another gem DJscripture.
Everytime I think of having a ‘blast from the past’ I look at the wider picture and immediately tell myself “no jose” (silent j,lol).
love and support.
AS.:love:
August 8, 2006 at 5:01 pm

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shaikar

@shaikar

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I will never ever do Heroin. Same as Crystal Meth. It might have the gretest high, but the cost and what it does to your life aint worth it.
August 13, 2006 at 5:47 pm

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xcriminalxvicex

@xcriminalxvicex

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I have a friend that snorts dope, and has developed a physical addiction. Its how she was when I met her, all in all, shes a bit moody, and I could never live her life style, but shes a good person all in all. One of the things I like most about her, is that as long as you have a couple of bucks for a bag of D she’s all sorts of reliable. $10 is worth being about to absolutly count on some one, thats better than I can say about most people. I’ve had people flake on me with $50 on the table, never mind $10.
August 14, 2006 at 5:59 pm

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xpillpopper

@xpillpopper

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xcriminalxvicex wrote:

I have a friend that snorts dope, and has developed a physical addiction. Its how she was when I met her, all in all, shes a bit moody, and I could never live her life style, but shes a good person all in all. One of the things I like most about her, is that as long as you have a couple of bucks for a bag of D she’s all sorts of reliable. $10 is worth being about to absolutly count on some one, thats better than I can say about most people. I’ve had people flake on me with $50 on the table, never mind $10.

LOL – you hang out with some shaders..raaaraaaraaaraaame too though!
August 22, 2006 at 1:03 am

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DJ-DSS

@dj-dss

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Agent Subby wrote:

Another gem DJscripture.
Everytime I think of having a ‘blast from the past’ I look at the wider picture and immediately tell myself “no jose” (silent j,lol).
love and support.
AS.:love:

U know agentS… :bounce_fl
August 22, 2006 at 1:11 am

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Agent Subby

@agent-subby

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Nice one DJ-Scripture. Anychance of sending me some of those reiki vibes in my direction. BTW still going strong mate. Hope you are too:wink:

:love: :love:
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