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May 29, 2007 at 8:43 am

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Kerrse

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tarifa wrote:

It’s no good saying heroin users are just idiots, they’re not. Heroin is insanely good stuff, its just its price is terrible, looks, life, friends, self-respect, happiness, anything other than an all-consuming need for it and it alone.

Im sorry but i disagree, anyone using heroin in my book is an idiot and it’s got nothing to do with price.

99% of the users i have known on it have ruined their chance of a good life.They have lost everything from their homes to there partners their friends pretty much everything inculding any dignity they once had.

There is nothing good about being physcially addicted to a drug it takes over people’s lives.I just can’t understand anyone doing it in the first place you can see how much it fucks people up so why would you think that you can control it !

:you_crazy
May 29, 2007 at 10:26 am

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tarifa

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Kerrse wrote:

Im sorry but i disagree, anyone using heroin in my book is an idiot and it’s got nothing to do with price.

:you_crazy

You sure thats what you mean, that anyone who tried/takes herion is an idiot?

That’s quite a statement.
May 29, 2007 at 1:35 pm

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Kerrse

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tarifa wrote:

You sure thats what you mean, that anyone who tried/takes herion is an idiot?

That’s quite a statement.

Yes thats exactly what i mean anyone with half a brain can see it’s a drug that basically ruins lives so why then would you make the decision to do it unless

a. Your an idiot
b. You want to fuck up your life an everyones close to you

I’m sorry if this upsets you but anyone who thinks Heroin is an acceptable drug to do needs to go an get some help !
May 29, 2007 at 1:59 pm

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General Lighting

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Kerrse wrote:

I’m sorry if this upsets you but anyone who thinks Heroin is an acceptable drug to do needs to go an get some help !

I don’t think tarifa (or any others on this thread) are really saying its an acceptable drug but pointing out why people get sucked into addiction, clearly it must have some pleasures otherwise people wouldn’t do it!

I’ve got a bit of sympathy for those ravers who got caught out in the early 90s when there was less reliable information about –

but I do think though that anyone who in this day and age with all the info now available from trusted sources (NOT the “babylon” or “government preachers”) still gets themselves addicted to any drug is a bit of a fool TBH.

Not just that but they are taking many more others down with them.

One reason cops feel justified in cracking heads at illegal raves is that many still see todays ravers as tomorrows addicts, there is a small but significant minority of people who have gone down this path – and that is a problem this scene has to deal with by self-regulation if they don’t want the nanny state to take the power back.
May 29, 2007 at 6:12 pm

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tarifa

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Kerrse wrote:

I’m sorry if this upsets you but anyone who thinks Heroin is an acceptable drug to do needs to go an get some help !

No need to apologise Kerrse, just wanted to know if i’d understood you correctly.

It seemed a bit of a sweeping statement.

I had the impression you were someone who has made his own mistakes, like everyone else.

My life choices have taught me about the grey nature of reality and about the importance honesty and compassion.

If that’s the way you feel that’s the way you feel, I’m not saying you’re wong, but I will continue to resepectfully disagree with you wholeheartedly.
May 30, 2007 at 6:57 am

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Kerrse

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tarifa wrote:

No need to apologise Kerrse, just wanted to know if i’d understood you correctly.

It seemed a bit of a sweeping statement.

I had the impression you were someone who has made his own mistakes, like everyone else.

My life choices have taught me about the grey nature of reality and about the importance honesty and compassion.

If that’s the way you feel that’s the way you feel, I’m not saying you’re wong, but I will continue to resepectfully disagree with you wholeheartedly.

Yes i have made mistakes like most people but when it comes to Heroin i’m sorry just don’t have any compassion. I think everybody knows what they are getting into when they do it.

Yes people get into it for different reasons but you can’t then expect people to feel sorry for you because you decided to take a drug that you know you will become physically addicted to.

I tired helping a best friend who ended up with a heroin addiction as we had been friends for many years. Gave him somewhere to live got him a job basically kept him away from the Heroin was all good for bout 6 months till he decided to move back to his Mums.

About a year later i ended up doing the same for him again although god knows why as he choose to get dependant on that shit again. Cut a long story short i had to throw him out this time as he was blatently still doing Heroin and that was the one rule that he had to abide by.

Anywaya few months later he burglared my house stole my dex my mixer an various other bits so there went any compassion i ever had for anyone on this shit ! If someone chooses to get addicted to a drug that will make them rob their best friend of 15 years that was trying to help them they don’t deserve any compassion.
May 30, 2007 at 11:28 am

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Coming to think of it, l reckon any addictive drug can cause such addictive symptoms in certain addictive personalities (aren’t we all addictive personalities, for something or other?).

I knew this woman once where l was working, and it was ace talking to her, but then l turned up to the karaoke night and l was absolutely hammered on booze and she just went all weird on me. It turns out her dad used to drink alot.

So maybe heroin, alcohol, speed, etc. can all make certain ppl really nasty, and make other ppl really revolted as a reaction to knowing someone that got hooked on it.

I gotta admit though, heroin scares the hell out of me, heroin addicts scare the hell out of me, they seem to be indulging in something really intense and hence seem to easily be able to turn on their best mates and think nothing of it, cos it’s nothing compared to the heroin rush …

But here’s a teaser: what if everyone was conditioned to say heroin is for softies and it’s just “gay” and it’s for ppl that can’t handle tobacco or E.

Would you get less heroin addicts then? Would people just laugh at heroin addicts then, instead of fearing them? Esp. if heroin were just ignored by the law. In other words, would things go back to the golden summer of 1898 when there were no heroin addicts and all was well in the world?
May 30, 2007 at 10:54 pm

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tarifa

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Kerrse wrote:

I tired helping a best friend who ended up with a heroin addiction as we had been friends for many years.

yes been there . . . an it sucks
June 3, 2007 at 7:39 pm

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MrSinner

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I won’t touch the stuff.Not a problem with anyone’s who’s bag that is,but it fucks you up standardly and im fucked up enough.There’s plenty of people to do that for me.i don’t need to do it to know that I will probably like it too much.
June 3, 2007 at 8:50 pm

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quietRIOT

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smokedareefa wrote:

My little chicken does heroin and wants me to try, is it any good?

:yakk: Your taking the piss right ?
June 4, 2007 at 9:11 pm

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globalloon

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Kerrse wrote:

Yes i have made mistakes like most people but when it comes to Heroin i’m sorry just don’t have any compassion. I think everybody knows what they are getting into when they do it.

interestingly, the majority of people who try heroin never develop an addiction (source; Joseph Rowntree Foundation)

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Yes people get into it for different reasons but you can’t then expect people to feel sorry for you because you decided to take a drug that you know you will become physically addicted to.

i don’t feel sorry for heroin addicts, but some of them have had the most unimaginably fucked up lives before taking any drugs. not to excuse people, just to try and think about what makes people make bad decisions

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I tired helping a best friend who ended up with a heroin addiction as we had been friends for many years. Gave him somewhere to live got him a job basically kept him away from the Heroin was all good for bout 6 months till he decided to move back to his Mums.

yup, you can’t help a heroin addict (or any other addict). they can only help themselves.

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If someone chooses to get addicted to a drug that will make them rob their best friend of 15 years that was trying to help them they don’t deserve any compassion.

there’s choice and there’s cognitive behaviour. i’m not saying your wrong, just that things are more complicated than they may appear at first
June 5, 2007 at 12:25 pm

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Kerrse

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globalloon wrote:

interestingly, the majority of people who try heroin never develop an addiction (source; Joseph Rowntree Foundation)

Tell that to people round here then as there’s plenty people who i know tried it an became addicts not all of them still are but there are still quite a few.
June 5, 2007 at 12:35 pm

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globalloon wrote:

interestingly, the majority of people who try heroin never develop an addiction (source; Joseph Rowntree Foundation)

Yep i know a few people who have tried it and none of them carried it on… were curious to the stuff so tried it…
September 27, 2007 at 12:36 pm

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ladywolf

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if your gf ever told u to take heroin, leave her! I am an heroin addict and if i have abf, i will never ever allow him to take not even try a puff! Why ?

Because i LOVE him!

I know the result from taking heroin, and surely i dont want my love ones takes heroin too.

I didnt allow my sister to take when she asked me some. I didnt allow my friends to take, when they asked me some. No! I already fucked myself up and i dont want anybody else to be like me.

So if ur gf told u to take some, that means only one thing, very simple, she wants your money. She wants you to accompany her becoming an addict, so you too, will , surely will, buy heroin when u already got hooked, when u already have the withdrawal symptom. Then , she can ask for your heroin to share it with her.

Easy as that. That is what she have 100 % in mind.
September 27, 2007 at 1:22 pm

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Agent Subby

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Talk about an apt thread for my return!!!!:wink:
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