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The mony should go to the elderly on there pensions . At least these old folk got off there fat arses and saved our Country!
All these dirty little scagheads do is waste my money, your money and everyones time!
SCOTTSUMMERS
EXCUSE me mate! i might have been a dirty smackhead before (past tense) but atleast ive got clean,
you obviously have no idea what it is like to be on or have anyone close to you who has had an habit with smack well listen to me stupid if you havnt got anything decent to say why bother at all, i can only speak fpr myself but i didnt know what i was getting into when i started using as i was 13 and didnt know nothing about the shit,
however i got addicted and was off and on it for 5 years now im clean and doing well and dont really appreciate people like you saying things like that, yeah its alot off money they will be paying for me to go but me and my family have payed taxes like everyone else,
you probably have the opinion that im from a bad family of crooks and junkies, well i aint nobody else in my family has been on any kind of drug i just happend to fall in with the wrong croud.
i appreciate its your view like we all have views but some people out there who are trying to give up have not got the support that i or others may have and hearing people putting um down could be the very thing that may make them think fuck this im going to use, think about that ive got a great family and boyfriend who can pick me up when im down but others aint so lucky.
so scott think about what you say!
SO TO ALL YOU OUT THERE WHO ARE STILL CLEAN AND FIGHTING THIS BATTLE KEEP IT UP AND DONT LET PEOPLES OPINIONS GET YOU DOWN.
Unless you are a pharmacist and have access to an unlimited supply of pharma-grade heroin, you’re pissing into the wind by even thinking about it.
That’s because heroin ain’t heroin when it’s off the street. It’s part shit, part H. There is no exaggeration there. Pity it’s said so often that one hardly considers it, but it’s true. Even if it’s 99% pure, what in the BLUE F*** is in the other 1% ?…….. 1% is a huge amount in I.V. terms.
To have a dependency on something you cannot get is asking for an early death.
Heroin doesn’t kill you, but people injecting unknown substances will rot from the inside out. Don’t inject it. Don’t smoke it.
Could not agree more.
ply like now when i click submit it says if you have forgotten your password then click here where do i need to right my password cos im obviously missing somthing out somwere. sombody please reply and help me. thanks.xxx
The mony should go to the elderly on there pensions . At least these old folk got off there fat arses and saved our Country!
All these dirty little scagheads do is waste my money, your money and everyones time!
SCOTTSUMMERS
It costs society far more (in mere financial terms alone, never mind the human cost) to pick up the pieces after someone has totally destroyed themselves and/or to lock them up (or even to collect their body from the street and have it stored by the Coroner before cremation) than to set up a rehab unit.
Lets not forget a lot of people get into bad states from other party drugs as well and often require NHS treatment.
I’ve known lots of pillheads, speed users to end up complaining of depression and other mental problems. What about those who do acid and freak out and often end up in the emergency department?
As long as drugs remain illegal, that argument “these scum use up NHS resources” could be (and is) used against any drug user, not just heroin addicts.
I think it’s a little too easy to tell the heroin addicts that they’re filthy skag heads and that they should sort it out. There’s that phrase that you shouldn’t judge someone until you’ve walked a mile in their shoes.
Now, I have never been dependant on Heroin, though I have tried it a few times. The reason I probably haven’t become dependant is that I knew facts about it before I tried it, by speaking with an existing addict and also an ex-addict (that and I fucking hate needles – I fainted at school having my TB so I’m probably pretty incapable of jacking anything up. But I digress). I wasn’t really into it, to be honest, but that’s not the point.
It is not up to us to criticise why people do things or why they turn out like they do. Everybody has reasons for shit, both right & wrong, they fact that we don’t always understand them is not a downfall on their part, surely?
I have had friends & acquaintances who have died from overdoses – these weren’t intentional suicides, but obviously it was no-one’s fault but their own.
As for the addicts wasting our money, shouldn’t you care that 10% of your taxes go to the military? Shouldn’t you care that the taxes they put on your cigarettes and tobacco does NOT go to the health department as promised? Also, while we’re on the subject of wasting resources, what about the (hundreds of?) thousands of pounds that are wasted by the police trying to control parties, when all these resources could be used to catch rapists and murderers? Should we stop parties too?
This life is about inclusion, not exclusion. Of course there are things which society would be better off without, but that doesn’t change the fact these things are already here.
Of course it would be better if there were no Heroin addicts, it would be good if there were no alcoholics, no speed freaks, no coke-heads, no compulsive eaters, no gamblers. It would be lovely if we lived in a nice semi with a white picket fence, with nothing nasty for miles around. But we don’t.
We are all part of the same family, we should look out and care for ALL our brothers and sisters, even if we KNOW that they are wrong.
peace
Whatever you do or don’t do, whatever you try or don’t try, don’t try Heroin!!! I am in recovery myself. I was seriously addicted to Heroin, but did have people in my life who still cared about me. They tied me down on a bed and sat with me for 15 days, until the kick was over. That was a little over 8 years ago, and I still crave it. I won’t ever touch it again, but life without it can be torture.
There is no buzz on earth that is worth the agony of withdrawals, or of watching your friends and family give up on you and cut you out of their lives, or of giving up your self respect and basic human decency.
What about discussing treatment options?
Methadone should not be the first and only treatment offerred for addiction.
Naltrexone implants are a valuable tool in helping people to stay clean.
I am aware they are only available at private clinics like the stapleford and the lifebackclinic http://www.thelifebackclinic.com. but they will be made more widely available if the people who want them ask!
people are very much at the mercy of both their GP and their local health authority
there is essentially no help for heroin addicts in some parts of the country… around here people are prescribed such tiny amounts of subutex (if they can get it at all) that it isn’t effective in bringing relief from withdrawl, so they carry on using H, but a single bad urine sample and they’ll lose their scrip straight away.. one strike and you’re out :annoyed:
bearing that in mind, is it really worth it?
i have to say i’ve tried skag twice, chasing it off foil, and i thought it was a shallow high. i like my drugs to be interesting and challenging, not have the effect of three days hardcore skunk smoking in one second. boring as fuck.
i totally agree that h is one of the shittest drugs to get addicted to, but havin a chase does not a junky make. try anything once is my motto. people are so blase about coke, but all serious about skag, as if its worse. i admit that shooting anything into your veins that you buy off a criminal is stupid as gravel, but not everyone goes that route.
the junkys ive met, while they are selfish, insular little shits, have no where near the malevolant evil that comes with cocaine. ive seen the nicest people turn into scum in weeks. junky just seem to sit around being dull, which is shit but not evil.
having said all that, i fucking hate coke and skag because as i saidf theyre shallow highs that require you to contribute notyhing to the experience. if you are a human, you will find them pleasurable. so what? they dont enrich your life, like i would argue halucinogens and e does, so i wont go near em. i do know if i take coke im a wanker and if i do a chase, im dull as shit.
NO NO NO DONT TRY IT. WHY DO YOU WANT TO TRY THAT SHIT?
Been there, done it and fucked up a whole part of my life.
Started at 17-18 and im nearly 29.
I’ll be inside re-hab on my 29th birthday when I should be out partying.
Pills, speed and parranoia made me do it – well actually it helped.
I wont make anyone do it and Im not gonna tell anyone to do it.
I’d say no – just wait until you watch someone try and inject into their groin when they have no veins left and they are crapping themselfs and being sick at the same time because they are clucking.
Heroin addiction is only arround the corner if you try it just once and like it.
Wish me luck
Oh and General Lighting my old friend – I’ll be back soon mate, the old me!
pure curiosity here…i’d never touch the stuff, but how much does it cost? i mean, ive known a few (ab)users and i cant see how they could afford it, if it as expensive as everyone makes out…
At least you got the balls to ask an intelligent question rather than slate it mate – You got guts!!
Average bag is a £10. You can get anywhere between 0.1 of a gramm or less or even as much as 0.2 of a gramm. This can sort your habit out from anything to not at all to as much as a third of a day. Then you get £20 deals which can weigh from 0.2 – 0.5 of a gram. Some places charge £25 – 30 quid for a proppa half a gram. A 1/16 can cost £50 – 60 quid in the Reading / Newbury area. I’m sure other places will be different. An 1/8 can cost as much as £150 depending on quality. It can even go as low as £100 – 110 which is what ive paid in the past. As much as an ounce in bad times could cost you up to £1000. In the good ol days, ive paid £1150 for something which was so strong – I smoked it myself rather than sold it! :cloud9:
Nowadays an ounce can cost as little as 500 – 850. Again depends on how many you buy and quality and who you know.
Ive often found its cheaper over in places like Bristol and the north such as liverpool, Leeds, Glasgow, Hull, Humberside, and even in Ireland – anywhere except the Thames Valley area seems cheaper.
London – it too variable to tell. Too many people do it and sell it. Quality is up and down all the time. Street dealers that try and grab you say in Brixton (sorry to use a cliche) I’ve never bought from them – too much to lose not enough to gain.
When droughts happen with the suppply and demand of gear – IT SUCKS! Prices go sky high and the deals drop – and the quality stinks. You can get a bag of shit for a tenner – and when yor ill and youve just made that tenner (however you made it) you feel gutted and you have to repeat the whole cycle of begging, borrowing, stealing, selling and then scoring. Its one big circle that people do not want to get involved in.
Any questions that relate to smack I’ll be happy to educate!! If I can.
PLUR
Elliot
thanks Elliot for two really informative posts – which have given out more solid info than many of the “proper channels”…..
BTW good luck with the rehab…
look at those figures though, and consider that many addicts cannot hold down a job and commit crime to feed their habits. The crimes are usually burglaries of dwellings/vehicles, although they can sometimes be violent robberies is someone is desparate enough and still has their physical strength or the reactions to use a weapon.
thats a shitload of crime and violence…
and look at the poll results [which even I find shocking] – over a quarter of this boards users have tried heroin at least once..
I am certainly aware of a time around 10 years ago when it started becoming “acceptable” as a “comedown” drug amongst many of the ravers [some of whom were burning out from overuse of stimulants….] – we lost a lot of good people (some permanently) from the rave scene and this “gateway effect” is one of the reasons cops and wider society don’t like raves.
Although we can argue that its a consequence of prohibition; in a country like the UK where the internet is relatively uncensored and easy access to reliable drugs information is available, we can no longer argue that people don’t know about the dangers – there have been warnings about heroin since I was a boy, yet people have made the decision to take it.
And then we wonder why the nanny state steps in..
Please don’t add to the toll if you haven’t got addicted.., and if you are try to follow e-babes, shelly and the others on here who are bringing themselves back from the brink.
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